What Is the Passenger's Apparent Weight in an Elevator?

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The discussion revolves around determining the apparent weight of a passenger in an elevator at specific time intervals based on a velocity graph. The subject area includes concepts from dynamics and Newton's laws of motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to calculate acceleration from the velocity graph rather than assuming values. There is a focus on the forces acting on the passenger and the definition of apparent weight as the normal force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the importance of considering all forces, including gravity, when calculating apparent weight. There is an ongoing exploration of how acceleration affects the normal force and the apparent weight in the context of the elevator's motion.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a missing velocity-time graph, which is crucial for determining acceleration. Participants also reflect on assumptions made regarding weight in a stationary elevator.

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Homework Statement



The figure shows the velocity graph of a 75kg passenger in an elevator.

What is the passenger's apparent weight at t= 1 s ?
What is the passenger's apparent weight at t= 5 s ?
What is the passenger's apparent weight at t= 9 s ?

Homework Equations



F = ma


The Attempt at a Solution



I was thinking since the acceleartion at 1s is 4m/s
The answer for 1s is 300N?

5s, since acceleration is 0, it would be: 0?



Anyways, my answers ended up not being accepted. So i know I am definitely doing something wrong. Any ideas?
 
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We don't see your velocity-teme graph; you first have to determine the correct acceleration, not velocity, at each time interval. Then when you apply Newton's laws, you must first look at all forces acting on the person before using F_net = ma. The 'apparent weight' is the Normal force acting on the person.
 
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I was basing the acceleration on the rate of change that was occurring.
 
alexas said:
I was basing the acceleration on the rate of change that was occurring.

It's accelerating because of the increase in speed, this is true, but what about gravity?
 
First let me just say, when you are standing in an elevator, before it begins to move, do you weigh zero?

Think about that for a second, I'm not sure why you would have submitted that but I admit I've had my share of braindead moments myself so I can't be pointing any fingers. Hehehe.

For apparent weight I usually add the acceleration that the system is undergoing TO gravity itself which you must remember (and apparently did not =p ) never goes away.

So yea, think about it.
 

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