What is the password related to particles and energy in this puzzle?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a puzzle related to a password that connects particles and energy, specifically through a clue involving "East India" and "Alton." Participants explore various hypotheses for the password based on the given hints.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the first part of the answer is "BLACK HOLE," confirmed as correct due to its connection to Calcutta and a ride at Alton Towers.
  • Another participant proposes "CONSERVE" as it relates to the sum of all energy and mass, noting it contains the letters E and S.
  • Various other suggestions for the password include "spacetime," "forces," "special relativity," "string theory," and "substance," though their relevance is uncertain.
  • Some participants question the validity of previously attempted words and the criteria for determining their correctness.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the role of "black hole" in the password and requests clarification on previous clues solved.
  • Another participant lists a series of potential words containing the letters E and S, inviting others to explore these options.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the password, with multiple competing suggestions and ongoing uncertainty about the criteria for correctness.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the information they have about the password, including the significance of the letters E and S and the role of "black hole." The process of elimination based on prior attempts is also unclear.

needananswer
Hi all,

Have just joined up cause I have been trying to solve a puzzle ofr ages now and am totally stuck so thought I would come and see if any of you clever people can help me :o)

I need to find a password, generated from the following clue:

Seek out that which relates this place to East India and Alton,
Speak the name that is the sum of all particles and energy.


The first part of the answer is BLACK HOLE I have had it confirmed this is correct (East India = Calcutta = Black Hole of Calcutta = ride Alton Towers called the Black Hole).

This is then supposed to lead on into the next part of the clue Speak the name that is the sum of all particles and energy

Well so far I have tried the following as possible answers:

Einstein
Universe
Enterprise
Energos

All of which are incorrect. The password is a long word and contains the letters E and S somewhere in it! So if any of you have any suggestions, please let me have them, it's driving me insane! I promise to come back and let you know what the answer was...assuming I finally get it right!

Thanks :o)
 
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The sum of all energy and mass is CONSERVED (there is an S and E).
 
spacetime?
 
forces? singularity (although it doesn't contain an 'e' "black hole does and I'm not entirely clear if the "e" in black hole counts towards the "e" in the password)?

Also, you said
Well so far I have tried the following as possible answers:

Einstein
Universe
Enterprise
Energos

All of which are incorrect.
How do you know they are incorrect?
The password is a long word and contains the letters E and S somewhere in it!
How do you know this? Maybe if we are given all the information you know about how you know this information, it will help us in deciphering.
 
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Fire Truck.
 
special relativity

string theory
 
He's trying to hack someone's password.

makethings said:
The sum of all energy and mass is CONSERVED (there is an S and E).

I'd go with this one, me likey^^
 
lol, not trying to hack someones password. It's part of a competition I've been involved in for nearly a year. I know the words I listed are incorrect because the person I have to give the password to has told me so. I Know there is an S and an E in the word as they confirmed that too. The person I have to give the password too doesn't know the entire password, just 4 letters, iykwim. He has confirmed the two letters as they were in the words I tried, so presumably the two other letters he knows haven't appeared in the words I've tried so far (confused yet? lol).

Anyway, once I give him a word that contains all the letters he knows, he then has to contact the people who are running the competition. Can only put 3 words a week, so all in all a lengthy process!
 
Why "this place"?
 
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what were all the other words that you have tried before he told you about the 'e' and 's'; and what did you say or do to get him to tell you that? (it sounds odd that he would tell you or give you any 'hints')
 
  • #11
Is 'black hole' not a part of the password? What is its role then? Can you show us some previous clues that you have solved.
 
  • #12
maybe substance :rolleyes:
 
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needananswer said:
The person I have to give the password too doesn't know the entire password, just 4 letters, iykwim. He has confirmed the two letters as they were in the words I tried, so presumably the two other letters he knows haven't appeared in the words I've tried so far (confused yet? lol).
By all means, try the following words:

sea
seb
sec
sed
sef
seh
sej
sek
sel
sem
seq
sew
sex
sey
sez

and let us know what you discover.
 
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