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Still in the analog world, are we?Mister T said:Ask yourself what physical phenomenon is responsible for the fact that the reading on a clock changes continuously?
Time dilation is a consequence of the constant speed of light, which remains invariant across all inertial frames. The discussion emphasizes that there is no mechanistic explanation for why time moves at different rates for different observers; rather, it is a fundamental feature of the universe. Understanding time dilation requires comprehending the relativity of simultaneity, as both phenomena are interconnected and arise from Einstein's postulates of special relativity. The forum participants agree that examining time dilation through the lens of clock mechanics can lead to distractions and misunderstandings.
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Still in the analog world, are we?Mister T said:Ask yourself what physical phenomenon is responsible for the fact that the reading on a clock changes continuously?
If you want to know that, ask me, Sorcerer... because the answer is ~MAGIC!~Mister T said:Ask yourself what physical phenomenon is responsible for the fact that the reading on a clock changes continuously?
Jazzyrohan said:I know that things do not actually change size in their reference frames but only is observed to be doing so. I am asking if time dilation occurs due to the time taken by the light to reach us or something of that sort.
Rap said:There's no physical phenomenon, its a point-of-view phenomenon. It's like asking "when I look at circle head-on, it looks like a circle, but when I view it from an angle, it looks like an ellipse. What is the physical phenomenon which causes this?"
Different inertial frames have different "points of view", they divide spacetime up into space and time in different ways. People in different inertial systems disagree about the time between two events in the same way people viewing a circle at different angles will disagree on what it looks like. They both understand why they disagree, just as relativity explains why two inertial systems may disagree.
nitsuj said:I like the perspective it's the geometry of spacetime; however that is one step after the most favored irreducible reply, that c is invariant. Am surprised no one mentioned causality. That's a fun one to think of as being the cause of time dilation / length contraction.
For a simply put book on SR, Relativity (a brief insight) by Russell Stannard is one I like. He put's a fair amount of emphasis on measurement (in turn perspectives); which I find important when developing an understanding of the concept in general.
"Hermann Minkowski developed the concept of three-dimensional space combined with time to form a four-dimensional space-time. The importance of this concept is that... the effect of relative movement... appears in the same manner as does the effect of a rotation in three-dimensional space." -- Dr. Ron DavisGrinkle said:It sounds like you are invoking a mechanical metaphor by using the word rotation, but I can't follow what you are saying (and I am not implying that is your fault). Can you clarify?
Coordinate transformation for rotation is given by, say ##\theta## is rotaion angle,David Lewis said:appears in the same manner as does the effect of a rotation in three-dimensional space."