What is the physical interpretation of eigenvalues in H?

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The discussion revolves around the physical interpretation of eigenvalues in the context of a Hamiltonian for a 2D conductor or semiconductor, particularly in applied quantum mechanics. Participants explore the relationship between eigenvalues, energy levels, and band gaps, as well as the implications of using different representations in quantum systems.

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  • Arya inquires about the physical interpretation of eigenvalues of the Hamiltonian after a self-consistent calculation of potential U, questioning if they represent allowed energy levels.
  • One participant asserts that the eigenvalues correspond to the energies of the eigenstates, indicating they are the "allowed" energies that do not evolve over time except for a phase factor.
  • Arya asks if gaps in the eigenvalues correspond to band gaps, seeking clarification on how to find band gaps from eigenvalues.
  • Another participant confirms that calculating eigenvalues as a function of wave vector k yields band structures, with band gaps defined between the highest occupied and lowest unoccupied bands.
  • Arya expresses confusion about the relationship between the eigenvalues obtained from MATLAB and the wave vector k, questioning how band gaps are determined in this context.
  • A participant discusses the dependence of eigenvalues on quantum numbers in the context of the hydrogen atom and periodic solids, emphasizing the role of symmetry and translational invariance in determining eigenvalues and k-vectors.
  • Arya seeks clarification on the interpretation of eigenvalues from the MATLAB output, particularly in relation to the absence of k in the original Hamiltonian setup.
  • Another participant explains that while the Hamiltonian for the hydrogen atom does not initially reference quantum numbers, symmetries allow for a deeper analysis, suggesting that the Fourier transform of the Hamiltonian can be used to solve for eigenvalues at different k-values.

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Participants express various viewpoints regarding the interpretation of eigenvalues and their relationship to band gaps and wave vectors. There is no consensus on how to reconcile the eigenvalues obtained from the Hamiltonian with the concepts of k and band structure.

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Participants note the complexity of solving general Hamiltonians and the importance of symmetry in simplifying the analysis. The discussion highlights the challenges in connecting eigenvalues to physical interpretations without a clear framework for the role of k in the Hamiltonian.

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Hi All,

My question is more from applied quantum mechanics. Suppose I have a 2D conductor(or semiconductor). I use eigenstate representation of hamiltonian in transverse direction and real space representation in longitudinal direction (direction of current flow). Now,

1. Hω=Eω , ω being eigenstates and E eigenvalues.

2. To find H we need kinetic energy + U (potential).

3. we can find n = electron density by ωω* . density matrix.

4. once n is found we can calculate U (Hartree potential) by Poissons equation.

1 and 4 are solved self consistently until U satisfies both equations.

If I have the H matrix after the self consistent loop is over i.e. I have actual value of potential U. Then what is the physical interpretation for Eigenvalues of H, are they the allowed energy levels??

Thanks in advance,
-Arya
 
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The Eigenvalues of the Hamiltonian are the energies of the corresponding Eigenstates, i.e. the "allowed" energies of states that don't evolve as function of time other than a phase.
 
Does that mean if I look at Eigenvalues of H and find gaps in energy numbers those are bandgaps. In short can I find bandgap by looking at eigenvalues?
 
Yes. You have to calculate the Eigenvalues of H as function of wave vector k. This gives you the famous "spaghetti" band structures. The band gap is between the maximum of the highest occupied (E<0) band and the minimum of the lowest unoccupied (E>0) band.
 
Now, given a matrix H ,
[d,v] = eig(H) in MATLAB gives me d = diagonal eigenvalue matrix and v = matrix columns of which are eigenstates. This would mean each diagonal element in d is eigenvalue of corresponding column in v.
Thus I have a set of eigenstates and corresponding eigenvalues. Where is wave vector k in this and where is bandgap.

Sorry for my ignorance, I an a Quantum-sufferer into nano-electronic circuits :)
 
When you solve the Schrödinger equation for the Hydrogen atom, you find that n and L, S, J and m_J are good quantum numbers, and that the Eigenvalues/Energies of the Eigenstates depend on these quantum numbers.

In an infinite, periodic solid the good quantum numbers are n (band number) and k (crystal momentum) - leaving out spin for the moment. The eigenvalues depend on these quantum numbers.

When you write your Hamiltonian as a matrix, then the size of the matrix is the number of states. For an infinite crystal there is an infinite number of states, so the matrix should really be infinite. The number of possible energies is also infinite - the bands are continuous.

So you have to go a bit further in solid state theory and analyze the symmetry of the solid, in particular the translational invariance. The Fourier transform of the possible discrete displacements are the k-vectors, with the
largest k-vector (=Brillouin zone boundary) corresponding to the smallest displacement...
 
Well now I am confused. Referring to my last reply, how would you interpret the eigenvalues obtained from [d,v] = eig(H).
Is that only for a particular K? However in setting up H in my original post we did not even talked about K . All that was considered is a potential U.
 
When you set up H for the hydrogen atom you don't talk about n and L either. But when you take a closer look at H (of the hydrogen atom), you see that it has a certain symmetry, and that because of that you can write the wave functions as a product of a radial and an angular part.

A general Hamiltonian is almost impossible to solve. Therefore one looks for symmetries - for each symmetry there is a conserved quantity, a "good quantum number".

In a crystal, the first symmetry to take advantage of is the translational invariance. I don't remember the exact details, but I think you essentially take the Fourier transform of H and solve H(k) independently for each value of k. After that there are additional symmetries, e.g. in cubic crystals, that reduce the number of k-values you have to solve to get a complete picture of the band structure.
 

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