What is the physical significance of dephasing in cavity QED?

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The discussion revolves around the physical significance of dephasing in cavity quantum electrodynamics (cQED), particularly in the context of the Jaynes-Cummings model. Participants explore the parameters that describe the atom-cavity system, focusing on the pure dephasing rate and its implications for the interaction between atoms and light.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the physical meaning of the pure dephasing rate 1/T2 and how coherences interact with light in cQED.
  • Another participant clarifies that pure dephasing accounts for dephasing not related to energy relaxation (T1) and describes its effects on the density matrix.
  • A participant explains that T1 relates to the radiative lifetime of the excited state, while T2 represents the coherence lifetime under ideal conditions without collisions.
  • Further elaboration indicates that T2 is measured using Ramsey spectroscopy and that pure dephasing results from inhomogeneities or fluctuating backgrounds.
  • Discussion includes the idea that coherences cannot be separated from the atom-light system, emphasizing the continuous energy transfer described by the Jaynes-Cummings Hamiltonian.
  • One participant mentions the use of Bloch sphere representation to visualize the effects of T1 and T2 on the system's dynamics.
  • Another participant expresses interest in understanding how the Bloch vector is affected by these parameters and acknowledges the complexity of real systems, including potential mitigation techniques.
  • A participant shares their background in numerical simulations related to the J-C Hamiltonian and its application to cavity QED, noting their primary expertise in superconducting devices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions and roles of T1 and T2, but there is no consensus on the implications of pure dephasing and its physical significance in the context of cQED. The discussion remains exploratory with multiple perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of dephasing effects in real systems and the potential for techniques such as refocusing to mitigate these effects. There are unresolved aspects regarding the strict mathematical definitions and the full implications of pure dephasing.

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Hi

In cQED and the Jaynes-Cummings model, three parameters are usually introduced which describe the atom-cavity system: The radiative lifetime γ, the cavity linewidth κ and the pure dephasing rate 1/T2. However I am not that familiar with the latter parameter.

Basically I guess it describes how fast the off-diagonal elements of the density matrix decay. But how do the coherences physically enter in the interaction between an atom and light? What is it that they do?Niles.
 
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Before I try to answer your question. Do you understand what the "normal" T1 and T2=1/2T1 do?

The "pure" dephasing is just an extra term that takes into account dephasing that does not come about due to the energy relaxation (T1).
 
f95toli said:
Before I try to answer your question. Do you understand what the "normal" T1 and T2=1/2T1 do?

Hi

Thanks for replying. My current understanding is that T1 is the radiative lifetime of the excited state and that T2 is the "lifetime" of the coherences when they decay only due to the radiative lifetime, i.e. there are no collisions for example. Is this more or less correct?
 
Yes, more or less.

T1 is essentially connected to how long the system will oscilllate once initialized in an excited state; i.e. Rabi oscillations.
T2 is tells you how long it takes for the phase to become "randomized" (making he off-diaganal elements go to zero) and is measured using Ramsey spectroscopy.
Pure dephasing is just a term that descibes any interaction that causes dephasing that is NOT connected to energy loss (T1), usually some sort of inhomogeneity or fluctuating background (this is not the strict mathematical definition, pure dephasing is something along the line of dephasing due to fluctuations parallell to the bath, but in reality this corresponds to what I just described).

When it comes to what the coherences "do" that is a bit difficult to answer. Remember that you can't separate the atom and the light; if you describe it using a J-C hamiltonian it all becomes one system with the energy continously being transferred between the atom and one (in he simplest case) photon. This process goes on forever if T1 and T2 are infinitly long.
You can then add Lindblad operators to your J-C Hamiltonian to include the effects of relaxation and dephasing.

Now, the fact that this is one system means we can describe in on a Bloch sphere and there it is a bit easier to see the effects. T1 just corresponds to the arrow becoming "shorter" whereas dephasing effects are parallell deviations to the free precession; the latter effect means that the phase eventually loses all "memory" and the oscillations will stop.

Note that in real system dephasing is a bit more complicated. Some of the effects can be mitigated using refocusing techniques (standard in NMR/MRI) and you can also have effects such as revivals.




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Thanks for your detailed answer. I'll have to read more about this, specifically how the Bloch-vector is affected. But you gave me a good push forward, thanks for that. BTW, isn't it correct that your profile picture are the modes of a coupled atom-cavity system? So if I scan from the lower right corner to the upper left I just get the normal modes, distanced by twice the vacuum Rabi splitting? Niles.
 
Sort of.
It is the frequency response of a resonator coupled to a 2-level system that can be tuned using a magnetic field. It is from a paper I published a few years ago where I was doing some numerical simulations. It is nothing sophisticated, I just solved the J-C Hamiltonian with added Lindblad operators to account for relaxation and dephasing.

Btw. I don't work in atomic physics, so I am not an expert in cavity-QED; my field is (mainly) superconducing devices.
 

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