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The discussion revolves around the plural form of the word "octopus," exploring various viewpoints on its correct usage, etymology, and the implications of language standardization. Participants share personal anecdotes, linguistic theories, and humorous takes on the topic.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct plural form of "octopus," with multiple competing views remaining throughout the discussion.
Limitations include varying interpretations of linguistic rules, the influence of regional dialects, and the evolving nature of language that complicates definitive answers.
Silly, it's both.berkeman said:Strange coincidence. Tonight we had a debate about what the plural of octopus is -- it took us a while to find a dictionary. I had everybody convinced it was octopi, until my wife found her (hidden) dictionary and proved that it is octupuses. Doh!
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/octopusInflected Form(s): plural -pus·es or oc·to·pi
Rach3 said:I'm rather sure it was originally octopi inheriting the Latin declension, and octopuses was a bastardization.
Chambers 20th Century Dictionary said:pl. octopuses, (arch.) octopodes (octopi is wrong)
Actually octopi is such a 'standardization'.Rach3 said:Some people would say adding the "es" makes it a standardization, because it agrees with some other plural forms. I call it bastardization.
(some symbols are not showing up in quote)ETYMOLOGY: New Latin Octopus, genus name, from Greek oktpous, eight-footed : okt, eight; see okt(u) in Appendix I + pous, foot; see ped- in Appendix I.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=octopi&btnG=SearchScholar Google said:Results 1 - 10 of about 796 for octopi
Results 1 - 10 of about 82 for octopodes
Oh baby. This should be good. Well, not good for the mairrage (sp?), but good overall. Wish me luck!Rach3 said:I'm rather sure it was originally octopi inheriting the Latin declension, and octopuses was a bastardization. Some people would say adding the "es" makes it a standardization, because it agrees with some other plural forms. I call it bastardization.
From lower down on that pageRach3 said:
Fowler's Modern English Usage states that "the only acceptable plural in English is octopuses", and that octopi is misconceived and octopodes pedantic. Octopi derives from the mistaken notion that octōpūs is a second declension Latin noun, which it is not.
That's why trucks only carry one octupus at a time.berkeman said:Strange coincidence. Tonight we had a debate about what the plural of octopus is -- it took us a while to find a dictionary. I had everybody convinced it was octopi, until my wife found her (hidden) dictionary and proved that it is octupuses. Doh!
Kurdt said:(spot the deliberate mistake)
Kurdt said:On the serious note
Notice how they don't even mention if the driver was hurt? Typical.BobG said:That's why trucks only carry one octupus at a time.
4 penguins perish in freak Texas truck accident - Octopus unhurt, exotic fish not as lucky en route to temporary home
Why hasn't Pengwino posted today?![]()
“There was another truck full of snakes and alligators that was an hour ahead of them, so luckily we didn’t have to deal with the alligators,” Buchanan said.
chronon said:From lower down on that page
Maybe we should start using octopera on the basis of opus - opera .
http://www.team4news.com/Global/story.asp?S=5256451&nav=0w0vberkeman said:Notice how they don't even mention if the driver was hurt? Typical.
BTW, this part of the article was especially funny:
BobG said:http://www.team4news.com/Global/story.asp?S=5256451&nav=0w0v
Better? (At least they got around to mentioning the driver in the second to last sentence). It even has a picture (the creature under the sheet that had the life support removed looks pretty flat)
BobG said:Edit: BTW, is 'pluaral' supposed to be plural for 'plural' or something?
All I know is that the breathing disorder is called 'pleuresy' because we have 2 lungs.Rach3 said:Nope, plural is not plural, plural is plurals.