What is the position of a falling ball given drag force and unknown velocity?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the position of a falling ball under the influence of drag force, with a specific focus on the role of velocity in the drag force equation.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the definition of velocity in the context of the drag force equation, specifically whether it should be considered as the current velocity or a previous value. There is also discussion about the interpretation of the drag force equation and its components.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights regarding the nature of the velocity term in the drag force equation, suggesting it may represent a unit vector. Multiple interpretations of the velocity variable are being explored, indicating an ongoing examination of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on the definition of velocity in the drag force equation, which may impact the calculations and the resulting plot. Participants are also considering the implications of the negative sign in the drag force equation.

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Homework Statement


I have to make a plot. This plot must illustrates a position of a ball, which is falling. My problem is that I don't know what v is in this equation.
drag force= -C * ||v(t)|| * v

Homework Equations



To calculate the velocity:
v(t+dt)=v(t)+a(t)*dt
where t is time and dt is Δt

The position:
x(t+dt)=x(t)+v(t)*dt

To find a(t) (the acceleration) I use:
a(t)=F(t)/M

where M is the mass f the ball and F(t):

F(t)=force from gravity + drag force

And drag force is:
drag force= -C * ||v(t)|| * v


The Attempt at a Solution



I have discussed it with some from my class and some say v is v(t-dt) .. other say it is just v(t).
 
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hello337 said:

Homework Statement


I have to make a plot. This plot must illustrates a position of a ball, which is falling. My problem is that I don't know what v is in this equation.
drag force= -C * ||v(t)|| * v

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That looks like it might be a unit vector in the direction of the velocity. I notice that there's a "-" in front of the constant C. That would make the drag force operate in the opposite direction to the velocity, which is expected.
 
Thank you! So you think that v is v(t) ? :)
 
More likely v = v(t)/|v(t)| , making it a unit vector (magnitude of unity).
 

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