What Is the Position Operator if Momentum Is Given by a Specific Operator?

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The discussion revolves around finding the position operator given a specific momentum operator in the context of quantum mechanics. The problem involves the canonical commutation relation and the properties of operators A and B, which are defined by their commutation relation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of the commutation relation [A, B] = 1 and how it affects the calculation of the position operator. There is a focus on manipulating the commutation relations and examining the relationships between the operators involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. Some have provided guidance on useful identities related to operator commutation, while others are working through the implications of their calculations and questioning their results.

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Participants note the importance of the canonical commutation relation and the specific definitions of the operators involved. There is mention of potential errors in signs during calculations, indicating a need for careful verification of results.

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Homework Statement


Find the operator for position [tex]x[/tex] if the operator for momentum p is taken to be [tex]\left(\hbar/2m\right)^{1/2}\left(A + B\right)[/tex], with [tex]\left[A,B\right] = 1[/tex] and all other commutators zero.

Homework Equations


Canonical commutation relation
[tex]\left [ \hat{ x }, \hat{ p } \right ] = \hat{x} \hat{p} - \hat{p} \hat{x} = i \hbar[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Using [tex]c = \left(\hbar/2m\right)^{1/2}[/tex]
[tex]\hat{x} \hat{p} f - \hat{p} \hat{x} f = i \hbar[/tex]
[tex]\hat{x} c \left(\hat{A} + \hat{B}\right) f - c \left(\hat{A} + \hat{B}\right) \hat{x} f = i \hbar[/tex]
[tex]c \hat{x} \left(\hat{A} + \hat{B}\right) f - c \left(\hat{A} + \hat{B}\right) \hat{x} f = i \hbar[/tex]
[tex]\hat{x} \hat{A} f + \hat{x} \hat{B} f - \hat{A} \hat{x} f - \hat{B} \hat{x} f = i \hbar / c[/tex]
[tex]\hat{x} \hat{A} f - c \hat{A} \hat{x} f + \hat{x} \hat{B} f - \hat{B} \hat{x} f = i \hbar / c[/tex]
[tex]\left [ \hat{x}, \hat{A} \right ] + \left [ \hat{x}, \hat{B} \right ] = i \hbar / c[/tex]
"all other commutators zero"
[tex]0 + 0 = i \hbar / c[/tex]

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Problem 1.2 from http://www.oup.com/uk/orc/bin/9780199274987/" .
 
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If [A,B]=1, then what will be the commutator of A with A+B? Can you go from there?

P.S. Your "f" on the left hand side is unnecessary.
 
If [A, B] = 1 then [A, A + B] = 1

[A, A + B] = A(A + B) - (A + B)A = AA + AB - AA - BA = AB - BA = [A, B] = 1

We have p = c(A + B) and [x, p] = iħ.

xp - px = iħ
cx(A + B) - c(A + B)x = iħ
x(A + B) - (A + B)x = iħ/c | multiply on A from the left
Ax(A + B) - A(A + B)x = iħ/c A | A(A + B) = 1 + (A + B)A
Ax(A + B) - (1 + (A + B)A)x = iħ/c A
Ax(A + B) - x - (A + B)Ax = iħ/c A
[Ax, A + B] - x = iħ/c A
x = -iħ/c A

Checking: [x, p] = xp - px = (-iħ/c A)(c(A + B)) - (c(A + B))(-iħ/c A) = -iħ A(A + B) + iħ (A + B) A = -ih

Ouch! Like always accurate within a sign... :cry:

Anyway, arkajad, many thanks for guiding me. I didn't have enough sleep last night. Maybe tomorrow I'll find the missing sign...
 
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Get a sleep and you will have it. But, perhaps, first prove for yourself a very useful identity: for any number a, and any operators A,B,C we have that

[A,B+C]=[A,B]+[A,C]
[A+B,C]=[A,C]+[B,C]
[aA,B]=a[A,B]
[A,aB]=a[A,B]

To save some work use [A,B]=-[B,A] as many times as useful. Once you are done - remember these rules, as they will be handy in the future.
 

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