What is the promising future of solar-powered cars?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential future of solar-powered cars, specifically focusing on a concept involving a light source powered by solar panels. Participants explore the feasibility of this idea and its implications within the laws of thermodynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a concept where a powerful light surrounded by solar panels generates electricity to power a car, suggesting it could be a promising invention.
  • Another participant argues that the concept violates the second law of thermodynamics, stating that one cannot power a light with the power generated from that same light.
  • A third participant reinforces this view by comparing the idea to a perpetual motion machine, referencing historical examples of similar concepts that have been debunked.
  • A different participant mentions the inefficiencies in current solar power technology and suggests that improvements are still needed, while also introducing the idea of fuel cells as an alternative energy source.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the feasibility of the initial concept, with some asserting it is fundamentally flawed due to thermodynamic principles. There is no consensus on the viability of solar-powered cars as described.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in current solar technology and the need for further advancements, but does not resolve the technical claims regarding the proposed concept.

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I saw on TV a while ago a program that explored some of the possible ways in which cars could be powered in the future. One of these was particularly interesting. It involved using a special powerful light that is surrounded by solar panels. The light given off is used by the panels to produce electricity to make the car run but some of the power produced is used to make the light work and the cycle continues.

I wondered is anyone else has heard of this invention and knows what has happened to it because to me it sounds like a very promising invention and I am surprised that I have not heared more about it since.
 
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Unless there is some external power source, that concept would violate the second law of thermodynamics.

You cannot power a light with power from a light, anymore than you can lift yourself up to the ceiling by pulling on your tie.
 
You cannot power a light with power from a light, anymore than you can lift yourself up to the ceiling by pulling on your tie.
LOL.

Jack, that's yet another perpetual motion hoax. The original is the self-powered water wheel. The water wheel powers a pump which carries water from the bottom of the wheel back to the top, driving the wheel, powering the pump... It doesn't work and CAN'T work because of what enigma said. Virtually all other perpetual motion hoaxes are a variation on the water wheel.
 
jack,
last time i do a assignment about the solar power...
even the the sun light we still cannot majority tranfer it to the energy ...that mean the techenic to using the solar power is still need to improve a lot
and what russ_watters and enigma said is right
i heard some of the energy now is also famous... fuel cell
did you know it??
 

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