What is the Quantum Force and How Does it Govern Atomic Vibrations?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a "quantum force" that purportedly governs atomic vibrations and the nature of energy in quantum physics. Participants explore the validity and meaning of this idea, questioning its scientific basis and relevance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the phrase "quantum force," suggesting it may be poorly formulated or lacking scientific grounding.
  • Others propose that the quote might relate to established concepts like the Schrödinger equation or deBroglie relations, but clarify that these equations themselves do not represent a force or energy.
  • A participant humorously references a fictional character, Obi-Wan Kenobi, to highlight the mystical tone of the original statement.
  • Another participant mentions string theory as a possible interpretation of the original question, suggesting that it involves vibrations of fundamental strings in higher dimensions.
  • There is a call for proper sourcing of the original quote to facilitate a rational discussion, indicating that the lack of context hampers understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not agree on the validity of the original statement regarding a quantum force. Multiple competing views remain, with some participants questioning the scientific basis of the claim while others suggest possible connections to established theories.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the original quote's formulation and the need for clear definitions of terms like "force" and "energy" in the context of quantum physics. There are unresolved assumptions about the intended meaning of the original statement.

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Hello,
I am not a physics expert so I thought you might help me with this question.
I have been told that:
"In quantum physics there is a force that governs and animates every vibrations in this universe... a force (energy) that governs and animates every atom."

Can you please explain to me what this force is and how it works?

Thanks everybody!
 
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Who said that and where?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Who said that and where?

Sounds a bit Deepak Chopra-esqe to me.
 
That quote from an anonymous person to whom I do not have access.
I just want to know if there is such a force in physics or no.
 
It sounds like mystical mumbo-jumbo, but if you would tell us who said it and where, maybe we could figure out what he meant.
 
somebody314 said:
That quote from an anonymous person to whom I do not have access.
I just want to know if there is such a force in physics or no.

https://www.physicsforums.com/blog.php?b=2703

Zz.
 
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I guess whoever said it might think of either the Schrödinger equation and/or the deBroglie relations. If so, the quote is badly formulated. Force and energy have specific meanings in physics, and the usage of those words in the quote makes it incomprehensible IMO. A quantum system can be described by the/a Schrödinger equation, but the equation itself is no "force" or "energy", it's an equation. The "wave properties" of a particle can be described by the deBroglie wavelength equation, but the equation itself is no "force" or "energy", it's an equation.
 
I have been told that:
"In quantum physics there is a force that governs and animates every vibrations in this universe... a force (energy) that governs and animates every atom."
Yes, yes, and it binds the universe together. I believe you are quoting Obi-Wan Kenobi.
 
Thank you DennisN. I think I should study about "Schrödinger equation and the deBroglie relations"
 
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This is a summary of what 70% of physicsforums threads are like.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Who said that and where?

The all-seeing Google pointed me to post #13 in this thread on a forum for foreign-exchange investors/speculators:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=307036

And this force which also animates and governs price movements.

:rolleyes:
 
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sheaf said:
Sounds a bit Deepak Chopra-esqe to me.

Lol...true

Bill_K said:
Yes, yes, and it binds the universe together. I believe you are quoting Obi-Wan Kenobi.

you can connect him with Yoda, he is buddies with Obi on fb
 
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Some web oracle said:
And this force which also animates and governs price movements.
I did not know economics was a branch of physics :biggrin:. I rephrase my "might" in post #7 to "might, but probably not think of...". Now I don't know what the web oracle was thinking of at all...
 
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somebody314 said:
Hello,
I am not a physics expert so I thought you might help me with this question.
I have been told that:
"In quantum physics there is a force that governs and animates every vibrations in this universe... a force (energy) that governs and animates every atom."

Can you please explain to me what this force is and how it works?

Thanks everybody!

Actually Michio Kaku says in this video [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jremlZvNDuk[/yt]

"The music of god, the music of strings vibrating and resonating through 11 dimensional hyperspace"

Obviously this isn't to be taken too literal but as far as I know string theory states that everything in the universe is made of up trillions upon trillions of these unimaginably small strings which vibrate.

Maybe this is what the OP is taking about?
 
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If that is true, then this is the wrong forum to do it in.

In any case, the OP neglected to provide a proper source and reference, something that is needed to carry any kind of rational discussion in this forum.

Zz.
 

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