What is the reason behind uncertainty principle?

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The discussion revolves around the Heisenberg uncertainty principle (HUP) and its underlying reasons, specifically whether it arises from experimental limitations, the dual nature of matter, or both. Participants explore these concepts in the context of fundamental physics questions.

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  • Conceptual clarification

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  • Some participants suggest that the HUP is a result of experimental limitations or the dual nature of matter, questioning the relationship between these factors.
  • One participant asserts that the HUP is a fact of nature and not merely a measurement limitation, indicating that this is a well-established concept within the community.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of searching existing threads for explanations before starting new discussions, suggesting that the topic has been extensively covered.
  • A later reply dismisses both proposed reasons (experimental limitations and dual nature) as insufficient, implying that there are alternative explanations available in previous discussions.

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Participants express differing views on the reasons behind the HUP, with no consensus reached on whether it is due to experimental limitations, dual nature, or other factors. The discussion remains unresolved.

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Participants reference existing threads for further exploration of the topic, indicating that there may be limitations in the current discussion due to the complexity and depth of the subject matter.

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Heisenberg's uncertainty principle:
due to experimental limitations or dual nature of matter? Or both?
 
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I don't know what "dual nature of matter" means, but the HUP is a fact of nature, not a measurement limitation. There are approximately 8,000 threads on this forum explaining that. My point is that for fundamental questions like that a forum search is a good idea before you start yet another thread.
 
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By dual nature I meant wave-particle duality.
phinds said:
I don't know what "dual nature of matter" means, but the HUP is a fact of nature, not a measurement limitation. There are approximately 8,000 threads on this forum explaining that. My point is that for fundamental questions like that a forum search is a good idea before you start yet another thread.
phinds said:
I don't know what "dual nature of matter" means, but the HUP is a fact of nature, not a measurement limitation. There are approximately 8,000 threads on this forum explaining that. My point is that for fundamental questions like that a forum search is a good idea before you start yet another thread.
 
weezy said:
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle:
due to experimental limitations or dual nature of matter? Or both?

Neither.
There are many many threads here, including this recent one in which you are already posting: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/uncertainty-principle-intent-behind-it.878026/

Start reading it from the beginning; you'll find the explanation for why thI'm saying "Neither" around #4. (Although #3 is also a good starting point).

I'm closing this thread because it is redundant - you can read some of the existing threads on the subject and you'll likely find answers to most of your questions. If after doing that something is still not clear, then by all means post up some more questions.
 
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