What is the role of Eve in a Man in the Middle attack?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the role of Eve in a Man in the Middle (MIM) attack within the context of quantum communication. Participants explore the implications of photon transmission and interception during the communication between Alice and Bob, as described in a referenced paper.

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  • One participant questions how to derive the expressions (1-t2)N and t(1-t2)N related to Eve's extraction of photon numbers during the MIM attack.
  • Another participant suggests that Eve receives the full signal from Alice, allowing her to use (1-t2)N of those photons for her spying, while needing to send t2N to Alice to avoid detection.
  • A different participant reiterates the assumption that Eve intercepts communication at the first stage using (1-t2)N.
  • One participant provides a reference to a paper that may contain relevant information regarding the discussion.
  • There is a mention of Eve's strategy involving stopping direct communication between Alice and Bob and replacing it with independent exchanges.

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Participants express varying interpretations of Eve's role and the implications of photon transmission, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the transmission process and the definitions of terms like "mean photon number" are not fully detailed, which may affect the understanding of the claims made.

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I have some curiosity about MIM attack in a paper that I have been found before. The diagram shows the MIM attack between Alice and Bob:
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I found that the sentences state:

"We consider that the transmittance of the quantum channel is t. If Alice sends pulses with a mean photon number of N, Bob expects to receive pulses with mean photon number tN in the first stage and t3N in the third stage, and Alice expects to receive pulses with mean photon number t2N in the second stage. Therefore, for the MIM attack, Eve can extract a mean photon number of (1-t2)N to obtain the estimate
φ1 and a mean photon number of t(1-t2)N to obtain the estimate θB .
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How to derived (1-t2)N and t(1-t2)N?

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Please give the reference where this is taken from.
 
I assume that they consider that Eve will receive the full signal from Alice, so a mean number of photons of N, and since she needs to send t2N to Alice so she doesn't suspect the MIM attack, Eve can use at most (1-t2)N of those photons for her spying purposes. Likewise with her spying of Bob.
 
DrClaude said:
I assume that they consider that Eve will receive the full signal from Alice, so a mean number of photons of N, and since she needs to send t2N to Alice so she doesn't suspect the MIM attack, Eve can use at most (1-t2)N of those photons for her spying purposes. Likewise with her spying of Bob.
DrClaude, it can be assumed that Eve is trying to intercept the communication at the first stage using (1-t2)N, isn't it?
 
Nur Ziadah said:
DrClaude, it can be assumed that Eve is trying to intercept the communication at the first stage using (1-t2)N, isn't it?
Disclaimer: I haven't read the article in detail. Eve is trying to intercept the communication by stopping all direct communication between Alice and Bob, replacing it by independent exchanges between Alice on one side and Bob on the other.
 

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