What Is the Role of Thought in a Predetermined Universe?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the implications of a predetermined universe on the nature and significance of human thought. It examines philosophical perspectives, particularly in the context of the block universe theory, and questions the utility of thinking within such a framework.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification, Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the purpose of thoughts in a predetermined universe, specifically within the block universe view, asking what difference thoughts can make.
  • Another participant suggests that one could think about the futility of thinking itself.
  • A different viewpoint expresses a nihilistic perspective, stating that the universe is meaningless and pointless, which may relate to the earlier question about the role of thought.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of the discussion under the forum's philosophy posting rules, with expectations of potential moderation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of thought in a predetermined universe, with some suggesting it may be pointless while others engage in meta-discussion about the appropriateness of the topic. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on definitions of "predetermined" and "block universe," as well as the unresolved implications of these concepts on human thought.

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if universe, everything is predetermined, then what is point for thoughts?

in block universe view, what is the point for human beings to be able to think? what thoughts can make a difference in a block universe?
 
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so you can think about why thinking is useless
 


There is no point to anything. This universe is meaningless and pointless.

Anyway, I fear this is not allowed under the philosophy posting rules. So I expect a lock soon...
 


micromass said:
Anyway, I fear this is not allowed under the philosophy posting rules. So I expect a lock soon...
You fear and expect correctly.
 

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