What is the significance of taking the derivative of y=sin^-1(x)?

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The derivative of the function y = sin-1(x) is expressed as dy/dx = 1/√(1 - x2), which is mathematically derived from the identity sin2(y) + cos2(y) = 1. While some participants in the discussion suggested a connection to the Lorentz factor in relativity, it was concluded that this derivative does not hold significant implications for relativity theory. The relationship between the derivative and the Lorentz factor arises from the mathematical structure rather than any physical significance.

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I was mucking around with graphmatica and decided to take the derivative of
y=\sin^{-1}(x)
and got
y=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}
which is the lorentz factor with
\beta=x
and
\gamma=y

Does this have any significance?
 
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No significance for relativity.
It just comes from sin^2 +cos^2=1.
 
If y= sin^{-1}(x) then x= sin(y). dx/dy= cos(y) so that dy/dx= 1/cos(y)= 1/cos(sin^{1}(x)). Since, as Meir Achuz said, sin^2(x)+ cos^2(x)= 1, cos(x)= \sqrt{1- sin^2(z)} so that cos(sin^{-1}(x)= \sqrt{1- sin^2(sin^{-1}(x)}= \sqrt{1- x^2}.

That is, dy/dx= 1/\sqrt{1- x^2}.

(I assume you meant y'= 1/\sqrt{1- x^2} not y= 1/\sqrt{1- x^2}.)
 
HallsofIvy said:
If y= sin^{-1}(x) then x= sin(y). dx/dy= cos(y) so that dy/dx= 1/cos(y)= 1/cos(sin^{1}(x)). Since, as Meir Achuz said, sin^2(x)+ cos^2(x)= 1, cos(x)= \sqrt{1- sin^2(z)} so that cos(sin^{-1}(x)= \sqrt{1- sin^2(sin^{-1}(x)}= \sqrt{1- x^2}.

That is, dy/dx= 1/\sqrt{1- x^2}.

(I assume you meant y'= 1/\sqrt{1- x^2} not y= 1/\sqrt{1- x^2}.)

dunno. Like i said. I was mucking around with graphmatica.
 
Why WOULD it have any significance?
 
romsofia said:
Why WOULD it have any significance?

Why WOULDN'T it have any significance?
 
JDude13 said:
Why WOULDN'T it have any significance?

I'm asking you, I'm wondering why you would think it would have significance. Do you know how to differentiate/integrate inverse trig functions (not with the program you mentioned)?
 
romsofia said:
I'm asking you, I'm wondering why you would think it would have significance. Do you know how to differentiate/integrate inverse trig functions (not with the program you mentioned)?

no... I was just a little confused when it happened.
 
JDude13 said:
I was mucking around with graphmatica and decided to take the derivative of
y=\sin^{-1}(x)
and got
y=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}
which is the lorentz factor with
\beta=x
and
\gamma=y

Does this have any significance?

As HallsofIvy pointed out, it should be dy/dx=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}

I do see the significance myself, or maybe better to say "I see the relation". I'd agree with your assessment. It's just a matter of understanding how the abstract math applies to the physical model of relativity theory. If x = v/c, then dy/dx = gamma (not y = gamma) where c=1. We then have the gamma factor of relativity, and the angular orientation differential (in 4-space) between the 2 frames of interest ... y = theta = sin-1(v/c).

GrayGhost
 
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This topic is a bit strange. There are MANY expressions in physics, chemistry, engineering, etc. that have the SAME mathematical form as this. You are fishing to put more "meaning" into this than there really is.

Zz.
 

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