What is the significance of the recent discovery of the largest prime number?

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The discussion revolves around the significance of the recent discovery of the largest prime number, particularly in the context of theoretical implications, practical applications, and the broader interest in prime numbers. It touches on aspects of number theory, cryptography, and computing power.

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  • Some participants express curiosity about the purpose of finding larger primes, noting that it has been proven there are infinitely many primes and questioning the practical utility of extremely large primes.
  • One participant suggests that the size of the largest known prime serves as a theoretical upper bound for number-theory based cryptography systems, indicating a potential limit to data security.
  • There is speculation about the future of encryption systems, with some participants suggesting that advancements in computing power could eventually render current encryption methods vulnerable.
  • Another participant reflects on the historical context of prime discovery, sharing a personal anecdote about their early involvement with the Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search (GIMPS) and the associated excitement of discovering new primes.

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Participants express differing views on the significance and utility of large primes, with some questioning their practical relevance while others highlight their theoretical importance in cryptography. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the future implications of large primes in encryption.

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Participants acknowledge the limitations of current encryption systems and the potential for future developments in computing power to affect the relevance of large primes, but do not reach a consensus on these points.

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Although this is very interesting, I have to wonder, what is the point in finding higher and higher primes, when it's been proven there are infinitely many of them, and as it says in the article, this prime is far too big to be of any practical use...?
 
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Although this is very interesting, I have to wonder, what is the point in finding higher and higher primes, when it's been proven there are infinitely many of them, and as it says in the article, this prime is far too big to be of any practical use...?

The size of the largest known prime provides a theoretical upper bound on number-theory based cryptography systems, and related bounds on the time necessary to break any such system using various "brute force" methods. One can think of this as the current limit to "how secure" a data lock can *possibly* be.

While most encryption systems do not have "need" for such a large number *currently*, the increasing speed and calculating capacity of electronic devices is growing so fast, that it is possible that we may reach this "soft limit" one day, and there will be no digital encryption system that cannot be broken by a sufficiently fast electronic device.

Or, maybe not, the exponential growth of digital devices may hit some other limit first that dramatically curtails the speed of future development. And very large primes may remain a curiosity that are seen as an archaic obsession of our time.
 
I think it's a good benchmark of current computing power, like Deveno said. On Netflix I just rewatched a movie called Swordfish which was made in 2002 and they were talking about the difficulties of 128 bit encryption. I believe that is still not feasible to "brute force" crack, but I'm guessing secure government documents employ much larger keys.

I remember when I was a teenager I had just learned what GIMPS was and that you could get a cash prize at the time for discovering a new Mersenne Prime. It was my first time out of the country and right before it I installed the free program on my parents computer, asked them to please not turn off the computer or exit the program, and left. Called home a week later and... not prime. :( Remember the whole thing fondly though.
 

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