What is the Simplified Form of the Trigonometric Expression?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating the expression $\dfrac{1}{\sin^2 \dfrac{\pi}{10}}+\dfrac{1}{\sin^2 \dfrac{3\pi}{10}}$. Participants explore various methods to simplify or verify the expression, including identities and relationships involving the Golden Ratio.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using degrees and identities to solve the expression.
  • Another participant proposes a "working backward" approach, referencing a solution of 12 and attempting to derive a relationship involving $\sin \left(\frac{\pi }{10}\right)$ and the Golden Ratio.
  • The use of a "Spread Polynomial" is introduced as a method to relate $\sin^2(3\theta)$ to $\sin^2(\theta)$.
  • Participants discuss the expression $\frac{1}{(s (3-4 s))^2}+\frac{1}{s} = 12$ and the implications of solving for $s$.
  • There is a claim that $s=\frac{1}{8} \left(3+\sqrt{5}\right)$, leading to the conclusion that $\sqrt{s}=\frac{\phi }{2}$.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for being introduced to the concept of spread polynomials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method or solution, with multiple approaches and interpretations presented. The discussion remains exploratory and unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the identities and relationships used in the calculations are not fully detailed, and the discussion relies on specific definitions of angles and functions that may not be universally agreed upon.

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Evaluate $\dfrac{1}{\sin^2 \dfrac{\pi}{10}}+\dfrac{1}{\sin^2 \dfrac{3\pi}{10}}$.
 
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I would use degrees to solve

we shall use the identity below to solve it

We have

$sin\, 72^0$
$= 2 \cos\, 36^0 \sin\, 36^0$ using sin 2A formula
$= 2 \cos\, 36^0 ( 2\, sin \,18^0cos\ 18^0) $using sin 2A formula again
$= 4\ cos\, 36^0 sin \,18 ^0 sin \,72^0$ as cos18 = sin(90-18) = sin 72
or
$4 \cos \,36^0 sin \,18^0= 1$
or
$\sin\, 54^0 sin\ 18^0 = \frac{1}{4}$
This is in my math blog at Fun with maths: Q13/092) Prove 4 cos 36 sin 18 = 1

another identity
$\cos^2 18^0 - cos^2 36^0 = (\cos \,18^0+ \cos \,36^0)*(\cos\, 18^0 - \cos \,36^0) $
$= \cos\, 9^0 * cos\, 27^0 * 2 *\ sin\, 9^0 * sin \,27 ^0$
$= \sin\, 18^0\ sin \,54^0 = \frac{1}{4}$

hence

$\frac{1}{\sin ^2 18^0} + \frac{1}{\sin ^2 54^0}$
=$\frac{\sin ^2 54^0 + \sin ^2 18^0}{\sin ^2 18^0\sin ^2 54^0}$
=$\frac{\cos ^2 36^0 + \sin ^2 18^0}{\sin ^2 18^0\sin ^2 54^0}$
=$\frac{\cos ^2 36^0 + 1- \cos ^2 18^0}{\sin ^2 18^0\sin ^2 54^0}$
$= 16( \cos^2 36^0 +1 - \cos ^2 18^0)$
$= 16 ( 1- \frac{1}{4})= 12$
 
Here is a "working backward" approach.
kaliprasad's solution is 12 which can be checked (approximately) with a calculator.

To verify that 12 is the solution, I'll try to derive a fact about one of my favorite angles $\theta =\frac{\pi }{10}$ , and the Golden Ratio. That is: $\sin \left(\frac{\pi }{10}\right)=\frac{\phi }{2}$

When solving problems where one angle is a (natural number) multiple another, it is useful to use a "Spread Polynomial". Click Here, for a table of spread polynomials. Let: $\theta =\frac{\pi }{10}$ and $s=\sin ^2(\theta )$

Then $\sin ^2(3 \theta )$= S3(s)
Where: S3(s) = $s(3-4s)^2$

Then the problem can be re-written as...

Given: $\frac{1}{(s (3-4 s))^2}+\frac{1}{s}$ = 12
Prove: $\sqrt{s}=\frac{\phi }{2}$

Solving for s: Click Here
$s=\frac{1}{8} \left(3+\sqrt{5}\right)$

Solving for $\sqrt{s}$:
$\sqrt{s}=\frac{\phi }{2}$ QED
 
RLBrown said:
Here is a "working backward" approach.
kaliprasad's solution is 12 which can be checked (approximately) with a calculator.

To verify that 12 is the solution, I'll try to derive a fact about one of my favorite angles $\theta =\frac{\pi }{10}$ , and the Golden Ratio. That is: $\sin \left(\frac{\pi }{10}\right)=\frac{\phi }{2}$

When solving problems where one angle is a (natural number) multiple another, it is useful to use a "Spread Polynomial". Click Here, for a table of spread polynomials. Let: $\theta =\frac{\pi }{10}$ and $s=\sin ^2(\theta )$

Then $\sin ^2(3 \theta )$= S3(s)
Where: S3(s) = $s(3-4s)^2$

Then the problem can be re-written as...

Given: $\frac{1}{(s (3-4 s))^2}+\frac{1}{s}$ = 12
Prove: $\sqrt{s}=\frac{\phi }{2}$

Solving for s: Click Here
$s=\frac{1}{8} \left(3+\sqrt{5}\right)$

Solving for $\sqrt{s}$:
$\sqrt{s}=\frac{\phi }{2}$ QED

hello Brown. Thanks for introducing me to spread polynomial

This is completely new to me.
 

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