What is the solution to the Tricky Collision Problem?

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The discussion revolves around a collision problem involving two blocks: a small block sliding down an incline and colliding elastically with a larger block suspended from a thread. The problem involves concepts from mechanics, specifically conservation of momentum and energy, as well as the dynamics of collisions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy to determine the velocity of the small block at the bottom of the incline and conservation of momentum for the elastic collision. Questions arise about how to find the new height and the length of the thread after the collision.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on starting points, such as drawing diagrams and applying conservation principles. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary equations to solve for the kinetic energy before and after the collision, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the need for multiple equations due to the presence of two unknowns in the elastic collision scenario. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A small hard block of mass 3m is suspended from a thread of length L. A second block of mass m is located on an incline, originally at rest, a height y above the level of the large mass. When the smaller block is released it slides, without friction, down the ramp, and then collides elastically with the larger block. The large block swings around so that the tension in the string just barely drops to zero at the top of the loop. The small block slides back up the ramp, rising to a maximum vertical height h.

Homework Equations


conservation of momentum: pi=pf
p=mv

The Attempt at a Solution


...help to get started please!??
 
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Drawing a picture is always a good way to start.
 
I've done a picture, and have a basic understanding that I should use conservation of energy to find velocity of the block at bottom of incline. Then I need conservation of momentum in an elastic collision to find velocity of ball on string...(?) How does this help me find the new h and the L?
 
So you know the KE of both objects before the collision, and you want to know the KE of both objects after the collision. There's two unknowns, so you'll need two equations. You got one, which comes from the conservation of momentum. What's the other equation? (Hint: It comes from the fact that the collision is elastic)
 

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