What is the speed of the string? (wave problem)

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The discussion centers on calculating the speed of a wave along a spring when the radius is doubled. The initial assumption that doubling the radius results in doubling the mass is incorrect; instead, the mass increases by a factor of four due to the area increase. The correct relationship for wave speed is derived from the tension and linear mass density, leading to the conclusion that the new speed should be v0/2, as stated in the textbook. The error in the original calculation stemmed from misunderstanding the relationship between radius and mass. Clarification on this point is essential for accurate problem-solving in wave mechanics.
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Homework Statement



A wave travels along a spring at speed v0. What will be the speed if the string is replaced by one made of the same material and under the same tension but having twice the radius.

Answer in book says (v0/2)

Homework Equations



v=√(T/μ)
speed= square root of (tension divided by mu)

μ=m/L
mu= mass/length

The Attempt at a Solution



With the first equation I filled in the equation for mu. Assuming twice the radius would mean twice the mass, I multiplied mass by 2.

v=√[T/(2m/L)]

v=√(TL/2m)

Then if I were to take the value of 2 out of the square root, I would get v=0.707[√(TL/m)]

Rearrange and get v/0.707

So where did I go wrong??
 
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bored2death97 said:

Homework Statement



A wave travels along a spring at speed v0. What will be the speed if the string is replaced by one made of the same material and under the same tension but having twice the radius.

Answer in book says (v0/2)

Homework Equations



v=√(T/μ)
speed= square root of (tension divided by mu)

μ=m/L
mu= mass/length

The Attempt at a Solution



With the first equation I filled in the equation for mu. Assuming twice the radius would mean twice the mass, I multiplied mass by 2.

v=√[T/(2m/L)]

v=√(TL/2m)

Then if I were to take the value of 2 out of the square root, I would get v=0.707[√(TL/m)]

Rearrange and get v/0.707

So where did I go wrong??

Twice the radius doesn't mean twice the mass. If you double the radius of a circle by what factor does the area increase?
 
Dick said:
Twice the radius doesn't mean twice the mass. If you double the radius of a circle by what factor does the area increase?

It increases by a factor of 4. Thank you.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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