What is the Time Evolution of a Quantum System with a Given Hamiltonian?

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The discussion revolves around the time evolution of a quantum system governed by a Hamiltonian defined as $$\hat{H} = \gamma B \hat{L}_y$$. The initial state of the system is given by a specific wave function in spherical coordinates, and participants are exploring how to determine the state of the system at any time t and the expectation value of the operator $$\hat{L}_z$$.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of expressing the initial wave function as a linear combination of the eigenstates of the Hamiltonian to properly determine its time evolution. There is uncertainty about whether the initial wave function can be directly used in the time evolution equation since it is not an eigenstate of the Hamiltonian.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested methods for expressing the initial wave function in terms of the eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian, while others have raised questions about the clarity of the problem's requirements, particularly regarding the expectation value of $$\hat{L}_z$$ and whether it should be computed at time t=0 or as a function of time.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of given eigenfunctions for $$\hat{L}_z$$ and $$\hat{L}_y$$, which are relevant to the discussion. Additionally, the problem's wording has led to some ambiguity regarding the expectation value calculation.

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Homework Statement


Let the time evolution of a system be determined by the following Hamiltonian: $$\hat{H} = \gamma B \hat{L}_y$$ and let the system at t=0 be described by the wave function ##\psi(x,y,z) = D \exp(-r/a)x,## where ##r## is the distance from the origin in spherical polars. Find the state of the system at any time t. Deduce the expectation value of ##\hat{L}_z## in the state ##\psi##.

Homework Equations


In Cartesians, $$\hat{L}_y = -i\hbar \left(z \frac{\partial}{\partial x} - x \frac{\partial}{\partial z}\right)$$

The Attempt at a Solution


Computing the Hamiltonian gives the new wave function ##-Di \hbar \gamma B z \exp(-r/a)##. To obtain the time dependence, by solving the spatial-independent Schrödinger equation, $$\psi(x,y,z,t) = \psi(x,y,z)\exp(-Et/\hbar).$$ I am not sure if this is correct since ##\psi(x,y,z)## is not an eigenstate of ##\hat{L}_y## and hence not of ##\hat{H}## either.
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You're right. You can't use that expression for the time evolution of a generic state. It only works for eigenstates.

You need to express the initial wave function as a linear combination of the eigenstates of the Hamiltonian because you know how to write down the time evolution of an eigenstate. So the first thing you need to do is figure out what those eigenstates are.
 
vela said:
You need to express the initial wave function as a linear combination of the eigenstates of the Hamiltonian because you know how to write down the time evolution of an eigenstate. So the first thing you need to do is figure out what those eigenstates are.

I forgot to mention in a previous part of the question, we are given eigenfunctions of ##\hat{L}_z## and ##\hat{L}_y##. For ##\hat{L}_y## they are ##\phi (x,y,z) = f(r)(z\pm ix)##, corresponding to eigenvalues ##\pm \hbar##. So these are also the eigenfunctions of ##\hat{H}## with e.values ##\pm \gamma B \hbar##. Hence, $$\psi (x,y,z) = \sum_{n=1}^2 c_n \phi (x,y,z) = c_1 f(r) (z+ix) + c_2 f(r) (z-ix)$$ and the ##c_i## are obtained by projecting the wave function ##\psi## onto this basis: $$c_n = \langle \psi | \phi\rangle = \int_{\text{all space}} x \exp(-r/a)f(r)(z+ix)\,d\tau$$ and similarly for the other coefficient. Am I supposed to do this integral?
 
That would be one way, but there's a simpler way. Remember the goal is to express ##\psi## in terms of the eigenfunctions. You want to choose ##c_1## and ##c_2## such that
$$c_1 f(r) (z+ix) + c_2 f(r) (z-ix) = D e^{-r/a}x$$ holds for all x, y, and z. You should be able to see what f(r) is by inspection. Collect terms on the lefthand side and then match coefficients for x and z between the two sides to get a system of equations for ##c_1## and ##c_2##.
 
vela said:
That would be one way, but there's a simpler way. Remember the goal is to express ##\psi## in terms of the eigenfunctions. You want to choose ##c_1## and ##c_2## such that
$$c_1 f(r) (z+ix) + c_2 f(r) (z-ix) = D e^{-r/a}x$$ holds for all x, y, and z. You should be able to see what f(r) is by inspection. Collect terms on the lefthand side and then match coefficients for x and z between the two sides to get a system of equations for ##c_1## and ##c_2##.
I see, so in the end, $$\psi (x,y,z,t) = \frac{D}{2} f(r) (z+ix) \exp(-iE_1t/\hbar) - \frac{D}{2} f(r) (z-ix)\exp(-iE_2t/\hbar)$$ where ##E_1## and ##E_2## are the energy eigenvalues corresponding to the each function in the basis.

To compute the expectation value of ##\hat{L}_z## in the state ##\psi## does that mean deal with the wave function at time t=0?, so compute ##\langle \hat{L}_z \rangle = \int \psi^* \hat{L}_z \psi\,d\tau = \int D^2 \exp(-r/a)x \hat{L}_z \exp(-r/a)x\,d\tau\,?##

Edit: I computed this integral, and since f(r)(z+/-ix) are not e.functions of ##\hat{L}_z##, I get terms that vanish and the integral is zero.
 
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The problem may be asking you to calculate the expectation value of ##\hat{L}_z## as a function of time. It's not clear from the wording, though, so you might want to ask your professor.
 

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