What Is the Value of S_n in the Summation Formula?

  • Context: MHB 
  • Thread starter Thread starter MarkFL
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Fun Sum
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the computation of the summation formula represented by \( S_n = \sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{n!}{(k-1)!(n-k)!} \). Participants explore different approaches to derive or simplify this expression, engaging in mathematical reasoning and sharing their solutions.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests the computation of the sum \( S_n \) and presents the formula.
  • Another participant acknowledges the problem and shares their solution, referencing a previous contribution by another user.
  • A third participant provides a detailed derivation involving the differentiation of the binomial expansion, leading to the conclusion that \( S_n = n \cdot 2^{n-1} \).
  • Participants express gratitude towards each other for their contributions, indicating a collaborative atmosphere.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no explicit consensus on the value of \( S_n \) as the discussion includes multiple approaches and solutions, with participants presenting their own derivations without resolving the differences.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify certain assumptions, such as the conditions under which the summation formula is valid or any potential limitations in the derivations presented.

MarkFL
Gold Member
MHB
Messages
13,284
Reaction score
12
Please compute the following sum:

$$S_n=\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{n!}{(k-1)!(n-k)!}$$
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Nice problem!:)

My solution:

We're given $$S_n=\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{n!}{(k-1)!(n-k)!}$$.

By multiplying the variable $k$ on top and bottom of the fraction, we get

$$\small S_n=\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{n!}{(k-1)!(n-k)!}=\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{k(n!)}{k(k-1)!(n-k)!}=\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{k(n!)}{(k)!(n-k)!}=\sum_{k=1}^{n} k {n\choose k}=\sum_{k=0}^{n} k {n\choose k}-0{n\choose k}=\sum_{k=0}^{n} k {n\choose k}$$

Since $${n\choose k}={n\choose n-k}$$

We see that there is another way to rewrite $S_n$, i.e.

$$S_n=\sum_{k=0}^{n} (n-k) {n\choose n-k}$$

$$\;\;\;\;\;\;=\sum_{k=0}^{n} n {n\choose n-k}-\sum_{k=0}^{n} k {n\choose n-k}$$

$$\;\;\;\;\;\;=\sum_{k=0}^{n} n {n\choose k}-\sum_{k=0}^{n} k {n\choose k}$$

$$\;\;\;\;\;\;=\sum_{k=0}^{n} n {n\choose k}-S_n$$

$$\therefore 2S_n=\sum_{k=0}^{n} n {n\choose k}=n\sum_{k=0}^{n} {n\choose k}=n(2^n)$$

THus,

$$\therefore S_n=n(2)^{n-1}$$
 
Last edited:
Good ans by anemone .

Here is mine
anemone has shown that

Sn = ( k = 1 to n) ∑ k(nCk)

We know

(x+1)^n = ( k = 0 to n) ∑ (nCk)x^k

Differentiate both sides wrt x

n(x+1)^(n-1) = ( k = 1 to n) ∑ k (nCk)x^(k-1) knowing that d/dx(x^0) = 0 so it is dropped

put x = 1 on both sides to get

n 2^(n-1) = ( k = 1 to n) ∑ k (nCk) =Sn
 
Thank you anemone and kaliprasad for participating! (Sun)

Here is my solution:

$$S_n=\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{n!}{(k-1)!(n-k)!}$$

$$S_n=\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}\frac{n!}{((k+1)-1)!(n-(k+1))!}=n\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}\frac{(n-1)!}{k!((n-1)-k)!}$$

$$S_n=n\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}{n-1 \choose k}=n(1+1)^{n-1}=n2^{n-1}$$
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
3K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K