What Is the W Boson and Its Role in Beta Decay?

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The discussion centers on the W boson and its role in beta decay, exploring the nature of the boson, its creation, and its function in the context of particle interactions. Participants delve into the mechanics of beta decay, the weak nuclear force, and the composition of protons and neutrons.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the role of the W boson before beta decay, questioning whether it is created during the process.
  • Others clarify that bosons mediate the weak nuclear force and that the W boson can change the flavor of quarks, facilitating the conversion of neutrons to protons during beta decay.
  • A participant describes the process of beta decay, stating that a down quark emits a W- boson, transforming into an up quark, which changes a neutron into a proton.
  • Another participant references a Wikipedia explanation, emphasizing that the emission of a virtual W- boson is key to the neutron-to-proton conversion.
  • One participant notes the difficulty in conceptualizing the weak force due to the lack of classical analogies, suggesting a need for quantum mechanical thinking.
  • A participant reiterates that protons and neutrons consist of valence quarks and dynamic quarks, clarifying that gluons are not constituents of these particles but rather carriers of the strong force.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the W boson's role and the mechanics of beta decay. While some points are clarified, there remains uncertainty about the boson's existence prior to decay and the nature of quark interactions.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the nature of virtual particles and the specifics of the weak nuclear force, as well as the implications of quark dynamics in the context of particle physics.

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So I was reading about beta decay and they talk about the 2 forms W- and W+ but what i don't understand is what is the boson doing before this happens? I thought a proton or a neutron were made with gluons and 3 quarks? Is it that the boson is created during beta decay and if not what is its function before beta decay?
 
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Bosons mediate the nuclear weak force, hence the big W. There are two kinds W+ positive and W- negative (it's anti-particle and vice-versa). There is also a third neutral boson Z0. Their mass is huge compared to other particles, even protons, that's why the range of weak nuclear force is very short and weak.

Bosons can actually change the flavor of quarks. During beta decay, weak nuclear force is responsible for converting a neutron to a proton and emitting an electon.
 
It's created. Heuristically, you can think of the process (at leading order!) as this: first, a down quark emits a W- boson, turning into an up quark. (And thus changing the neutron into a proton.) The W- boson then decays into a pair of particles, either a neutrino/electron pair or a quark/antiquark pair.

eg,

http://universe-review.ca/I15-06-betadecay.gif
 
Here is a nice explanation of beta decay from wiki,

"This process is mediated by the weak interaction. The neutron turns into a proton through the emission of a virtual W− boson. At the quark level, W− emission turns a down-type quark into an up-type quark, turning a neutron (one up quark and two down quarks) into a proton (two up quarks and one down quark). The virtual W− boson then decays into an electron and an antineutrino."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_particle
 
How the weak force is really hard to imagine, we do not have an analogy in classical physics. So sometimes we really need to think quantum mechanical, and that is quite hard because of lack of analogy with our daily life =)
 
stochastic said:
So I was reading about beta decay and they talk about the 2 forms W- and W+ but what i don't understand is what is the boson doing before this happens? I thought a proton or a neutron were made with gluons and 3 quarks? Is it that the boson is created during beta decay and if not what is its function before beta decay?

The role of the W vector boson has been explained to you. I just wanted to point out thet protons and neutrons are made up by valence quarks (the three constituent quarks) and dynamical quarks (virtual quark-anti quarkpairs that exist for a short amount of time). Gluons are the force carriers of the strong force, so therefore they do not make up protons and neutrons !

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thanks all
 

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