What Is This Mysterious Spark Plug Attachment?

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The discussion revolves around the identification and purpose of a mysterious spark plug attachment that appears to have radioactive labeling. Participants explore various theories regarding its function, potential applications, and safety concerns, with a focus on its possible connection to lightning rods and radioactive sources.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the attachment could be part of a lightning rod, questioning the necessity of a spark plug in such a context.
  • Others argue that the labeling indicating a radioactive source suggests a different purpose, possibly related to ionizing air or generating soft X-rays.
  • A later reply mentions that the attachment could be a radioactive spark gap, with a connector for high voltages, and discusses the implications of its labeling.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the exact function of the radioactive source and its safety, advising caution in handling it.
  • There is mention of a potential historical context, suggesting that the spark plug may have been modified with radioactive materials for specific applications long ago.
  • One participant questions the identity of the "CH" on the insulator, speculating it might not refer to "Champion," while another defends the identification of the spark plug as a Champion C-5.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety and regulatory implications of using such a device, especially if it contains radioactive materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the purpose of the spark plug attachment, with multiple competing theories and uncertainties remaining throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the categorization of radioactive sources and their potential applications, but the discussion lacks definitive conclusions regarding the specific use or safety of the attachment.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the intersection of physics, engineering, and safety regarding radioactive materials may find this discussion relevant.

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I was given this attached photo on a part of some apparatus but I don't know what it is... Any ideas?
 

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Could that be part of a lightning rod?
Where did you fin this?
 
A friend found this in a storage room. Do others agree or disagree with the "lightning rod theory"?
 
Why would a lightning rod need a spark plug? Champion C-5s are more often found in classic cars.
 
What does the sign say? Radioactive ...?
 
"Radioactive source. Do not open or heat above 250 C.
 
Then perhaps it IS a radioactive source. No idea why the spark type mount, but the shape makes sense.

I would not treat it as something safe. No idea what is the best course of action. Definitely don't put it in your pocket.
 
Radioactive source indeed - but for but purpose? Still waiting for answer to that...
 
Ionize the air near the tip of a lightning rod.
 
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Could you show what is written around the white insulator?
 
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It says "Radioactive source. Do not open or heat above 250 C. " I wonder why would a lightning rod would need a spark plug in it?
 
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On the white insulator we can see: "C-5 CH"
But we can't see the whole text.
Can you tell us the full text on the white insulator?

C-5 may be an indication for a category of radioactive sources.
from http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub1227_web.pdf :

"At the lower end of the categorization system, sources in Category 5 are
the least dangerous; however, even these sources could give rise to doses in
excess of the dose limits if not properly controlled, and therefore need to be
kept under appropriate regulatory control. " (page 5)

Lightning preventers are typically category 5 sources. (page 27)
 
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It could be an apparatus for generating soft X-rays by means of using a simple spark plug.

There is a paper on the subject here:

http://www.slac.stanford.edu/pubs/icfa/fall97/paper2/paper2.pdf

In the test set up described in the paper, a different model of Champion plug was used, possibly a J-12Y, although the report is not clear on the subject.
 
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It's clearly a radioactive spark gap.
The connector is obviously for high voltages and the labeling "Do no open"(sic) clearly indicates that it contains a radioactive isotope.

A radioactive source can be applied to the anode of a spark gap to provide ready electrons.
So, have you tried a set of Firestone poloniums?
sparkplugs2.jpg


http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/consumer products/sparkplugs.htm

The misspelling ("Do no open" vs. "Do not open") suggests that this was not mass produced.

It would be interesting to know:
1) What is the word that begins "CH" on the white insulator? (I'm sure it's not "Champion".)
2) Is there an electrical connection between the metal capsule and the ground connection? There probably is, but you can't tell for certain in the photos. If there isn't, this may be a triggerable spark gap.
3) How big is it? Perhaps 8 or 9 cm?

If polonium was used, it long dead.

I doubt that it had any use as a lightning arrestor - you don't need anything that fancy for shorting lightning.

In any case, it is probably a museum piece.
 
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1) What is the word that begins "CH" on the white insulator? (I'm sure it's not "Champion".)

Why? That is exactly what a champion C-5 looks like...

The one in the OP has the modern push fit terminal but many plugs come with both styles.

http://www.gsparkplug.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/c/5/c5_1.jpg

http://www.gsparkplug.com/shop/champion-c5.html

billy_joule said:
Champion C-5s are more often found in classic cars.
 
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Okay, so 60 or 80 years ago, someone infused or coated the anode of a Champion spark plug with a radioactive isotope and then sealed it up with a small canister. I believe that would make it a high voltage rectifier - that has long lost its uumph.
 

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