What is "to the first order in H"?

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The discussion centers on the concept of "to the first order in H'" as presented in Griffiths' "Quantum Mechanics" (3rd edition). Participants clarify that this expression refers to retaining only the first-order terms of the time-dependent perturbation, H', while discarding higher-order terms such as H'^2 and H'^3. The confusion arises around the interpretation of integrals involving H' and their relation to perturbation theory, ultimately concluding that |c_b|^2 equals zero to first order in H'.

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I'm learning Griffiths' QM (3rd edn).

In Chapter 11 (Quantum Dynamics), there is an expression I'm not familiar with:

## \left| C_b \right|^2 = \left[ - \frac i \hbar \int_0^t H'_{ba} \left( t' \right) e^{i \omega_0 t'} \, dt' \right] \left[ \frac i \hbar \int_0^t H'_{ba} \left( t' \right) e^{-i \omega_0 t'} \, dt' \right] =0 ## (to first order in ##H'##),
where ##H'## is a time-dependent perturbation of a two-level system.

There are some other places where the expression of "to the first order in H" appears. I can't remember anywhere I have learnd the expressions in calculus or other mathematics courses.
 
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It means that in deriving the expression, only terms of first order in ##H'## where kept, and that higher order terms (##H'^2##, ##H'^3##, etc.) have been dropped.
 
DrClaude said:
It means that in deriving the expression, only terms of first order in ##H'## where kept, and that higher order terms (##H'^2##, ##H'^3##, etc.) have been dropped.
Hi, DrClaude. I'm still confused. Shouldn't ##\left[ \int H'_{ba} \left( t' \right) \cdot \int H'_{ba} \left( t' \right) \right]## mean second order in ##H'##?
 
I only have the 2nd ed. of Griffiths, so I can't check, but this looks like perturbation theory, so it would be ##c_b## that is expressed to 1st order in ##H'##.
 
DrClaude said:
I only have the 2nd ed. of Griffiths, so I can't check, but this looks like perturbation theory, so it would be ##c_b## that is expressed to 1st order in ##H'##.

Yes, it is the perturbation theory. Well, the expression is from the solutions of the 2nd edn. The problem is 9.4.

Here is the solution.
9.4.jpg


Would you mind look at it in your freetime?

Thank you so much!
 
I get it now. It is ##|c_b|^2 = 0## to first order in ##H'##.
 
DrClaude said:
I get it now. It is ##|c_b|^2 = 0## to first order in ##H'##.
I'm sorry I still can not see how can it be first order in ##H'##. How does ##\left[ \int H'_{ba} \left( t' \right) \cdot \int H'_{ba} \left( t' \right) \right] ## relate to the first order in ## H'##?

Wait, is it because ##\left| H' \right| =H_{aa} H_{bb} -H_{ab} H_{ba}## and here ## H_{aa}=H_{bb}=0 ##?
 
Haorong Wu said:
I'm sorry I still can not see how can it be first order in ##H'##. How does ##\left[ \int H'_{ba} \left( t' \right) \cdot \int H'_{ba} \left( t' \right) \right] ## relate to the first order in ## H'##?

Wait, is it because ##\left| H' \right| =H_{aa} H_{bb} -H_{ab} H_{ba}## and here ## H_{aa}=H_{bb}=0 ##?
No. As you noticed yourself
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Shouldn't ##\left[ \int H'_{ba} \left( t' \right) \cdot \int H'_{ba} \left( t' \right) \right]## mean second order in ##H'##?
This expression is 2nd order in ##H'##, therefore, to first order, ##|c_b|^2 = 0##.
 
DrClaude said:
No. As you noticed yourself

This expression is 2nd order in ##H'##, therefore, to first order, ##|c_b|^2 = 0##.

:woot:Ah...I understand it now. Thanks!
 
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