What level of Maths do I need to know to solve Irodov's problems?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical prerequisites needed to effectively tackle problems in "Irodov's Problems in General Physics." Participants explore various levels and topics in mathematics, including calculus, vector calculus, and differential equations, while sharing resources and personal experiences related to learning these topics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to know which math topics to study to solve Irodov's problems, mentioning their current level of IGCSE Maths.
  • Another participant suggests that single variable calculus is sufficient for the problems.
  • A different participant notes the necessity of some vector calculus for electrodynamics, indicating it can be learned easily if one is comfortable with calculus.
  • There is mention of needing knowledge of differential equations, with a focus on separable and linear equations, which can be found in standard calculus textbooks.
  • Some participants recommend specific resources, such as Spivak's and Apostol's books for a deeper understanding of calculus, while others find Apostol's book too challenging.
  • One participant shares a quick resource for calculus methods, but another emphasizes the importance of understanding the concepts rather than just solving problems.
  • Another book, "Calculus and Analytical Geometry" by Thomas and Finney, is suggested as a friendly resource despite its size.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of single variable calculus and some knowledge of differential equations, but there are varying opinions on the necessity of vector calculus and the difficulty of certain textbooks. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact level of math required, as different participants have different experiences and preferences.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the specific topics within calculus that are most relevant, and there is a lack of consensus on the best resources for learning these mathematical concepts.

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I recently found myself interested in Physics, especially solving physics problems, looked up a few books and stumbled upon Irodov's Problems in General Physics. I'm enthusiastic about starting to solve stuff in it but most of the problems are quite math intensive it seems and since I've only finished my IGCSE Maths, it's obvious I have no idea of the math needed to solve most questions xD

So I was wondering if anyone could guide me on what levels or topics in Maths should I learn first to be able to tackle these problems. Calculus and Trig seem like obvious choices but calc is pretty big by itself, so was looking for a little guidance on where to start :) I'm pretty good at maths and I love self teaching myself stuff so I hope this'll be a nice challenge!

Thanks in advance!
 
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Single variable calculus is enough.
 
Ah ok then, I'll see if I can find a good book or resource on single variable calculus then, I assume that's only Calculus I. Thanks :)
 
You need a little bit of vector calculus for electrodynamics, which you can pick up pretty easily if you're comfortable with calculus.
 
From what I've heard, you probably need some knowledge of differential equations as well. But I don't think you need to know anything more advanced than separable equations and linear equations, both of which can be found in a calc textbook such as Stewart's Calculus, I think. This is a pretty good site for differential equations (the topics I mentioned are the very first two listed): sosmath.com/diffeq/diffeq.html.
 
thrill3rnit3 said:
You need a little bit of vector calculus for electrodynamics, which you can pick up pretty easily if you're comfortable with calculus.
Well I hate Electro anything in Physics so I guess I'll be avoiding that chapter for now :P Thanks for the info though!

snipez90 said:
From what I've heard, you probably need some knowledge of differential equations as well. But I don't think you need to know anything more advanced than separable equations and linear equations, both of which can be found in a calc textbook such as Stewart's Calculus, I think. This is a pretty good site for differential equations (the topics I mentioned are the very first two listed): sosmath.com/diffeq/diffeq.html.
Thanks for the site and info, but yeah I guess those topics fall under Single Variable Calculus, or so I'm assuming, but I'll be sure to include them in my preparation anyways. Thanks!
 
If you just want a quick intro just for the methods, tutorial.math.lamar.edu.
 
physicsnoob93 said:
If you just want a quick intro just for the methods, tutorial.math.lamar.edu.
Hmmm the site does look interesting but I'm more interested in actually understanding calculus instead of just being able to solve the problems. By reading around it seems Spivak's book and Apostol's are highly recommended if you want to understand Calculus, and they're challenging, which is what I like!

Thanks for the link though, should come in handy :)
 
Spivak is good. Apostol was too much for me.
 
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TidusBlade said:
Hmmm the site does look interesting but I'm more interested in actually understanding calculus instead of just being able to solve the problems. By reading around it seems Spivak's book and Apostol's are highly recommended if you want to understand Calculus, and they're challenging, which is what I like!

Thanks for the link though, should come in handy :)

Yeah the lamar website is pretty much just a quick reference if you forgot how to do something.
 
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TidusBlade said:
Hmmm the site does look interesting but I'm more interested in actually understanding calculus instead of just being able to solve the problems. By reading around it seems Spivak's book and Apostol's are highly recommended if you want to understand Calculus, and they're challenging, which is what I like!

Thanks for the link though, should come in handy :)

Have a look at "Calculus and Analytical Geometry" by Thomas and Finney (and don't be put off by the size -- its one of the friendliest books I've come across).
 

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