What Lies Beyond the Universe?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of what lies beyond the universe, exploring philosophical and physical implications of the universe's boundaries, the nature of reality, and the relationship between gravity and existence. Participants engage in both speculative reasoning and technical assertions regarding the universe's structure and the nature of space.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that while things may fall out of the universe, they still exert gravitational influence, questioning the nature of separation between the universe and what lies beyond.
  • Another participant counters that nothing actually falls out of space, asserting that distant objects may redshift out of detectability but remain within the universe.
  • A subsequent post introduces the idea of an eternally connected patch of whatever the universe arose from, proposing a concept of causality.
  • Philosophical reflections are made about the nature of reality, questioning the completeness of the universe and what may have existed before it.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the notion that the universe is all there is, suggesting that time may not have a beginning or end, and that the universe's creation event is minor in a broader context.
  • Personal reflections on education and experience are shared, emphasizing a self-taught perspective and a critical view of formal education systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the universe and what lies beyond it. There is no consensus, as some argue for the existence of a reality beyond the observable universe, while others maintain that everything remains within the universe's bounds.

Contextual Notes

Participants' arguments are influenced by personal beliefs and philosophical perspectives, with some statements relying on subjective interpretations of reality and existence. The discussion includes speculative ideas that are not universally accepted.

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All falls out of this universe. Over the horizon.
No longer 'part of this'
Yet what has fallen out. Pulls more in. Thus it is part of this.
What am i missing here?
Is em a nice outfit clothing the brute power of gravity. The destroyer and the maker.

Physics without philosophy is sterile.
Philosophy without physics is futile.

Louis
 
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Nothing falls out of 'space. Distant objects can redshift out of detectability, not outside our universe.
 
Addendum - We live in an eternally connected patch of whatever the universe arose from. Call it causality.
 
An illusion was carved in the stone. The arrows show where to go. Trust in yourself, truth awaits you here.
 
Chronos

Who told you this? The 'i believe' imp?
The universe is all of reality? How Parochial
If this universe is all there is.. what existed before it?
The magic world of dreams and lost loves.?
Your posts hint that you don't believe this.
Why the 'Nothing falls out of 'space. Distant objects can redshift out of detectability, not outside our universe.'
When space is turned into something totally crazy below the horizon instead of just an 'unknown' above it.
WHo knows what IS below the horizon.. we dont. Yes any EH occupies extentsion in our universe.. And is even shaped by initial spin.
The bang is an event.
And a minor one in the scheme of things.
To your addendum.
True in a Heisenberg way. I have the absolute temerity to suggest time has no beginning or end. For this i will be burnt alive.. :)

Good post love the avatar.

Louis
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PS i have no formal 'education', everything i say i taught myself. Have no time for the fools and politics of the ivory castle.
I proove NOTHING. My job is to ask questions.
So pls be patient. I tend to incorporate real life into the crap jargon so many are fond of spouting. Albert tried this and i does not work. I persevere.
Im a consulting stochastic analist. Worth big$. Go figure. I type this on my 30" screen on a water cooled PC i built myself.
In a house with 50 k$ mahogany loungeroom leaf doors. Garnished from a world before 'save the rain forrests'
All from the whitebread darwinian snakepit i was thrown in.
The pity i have is for those without opportunity.Seemingly a product of a species without reason.
I grabbed my opportunity, as do all who know death.
 
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