What liquid takes the longest to melt after being frozen?

  • Thread starter Thread starter NoOneLt
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Liquid
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on finding a liquid that takes the longest to melt after being frozen, with participants concluding that water (H2O) is the most effective option due to its high latent heat of fusion and specific heat capacity. Alternatives like slightly salted water and grain alcohol were suggested for marginally extended melting times. Tungsten and gallium were mentioned for their high melting points, but practicality and accessibility were prioritized. Overall, water remains the best choice for cooling purposes in indoor settings.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of latent heat of fusion
  • Basic knowledge of specific heat capacity
  • Familiarity with freezing point depression concepts
  • Awareness of common cooling methods
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the properties of water's latent heat of fusion
  • Explore the effects of salt on freezing point depression
  • Investigate alternative cooling methods, such as evaporative cooling
  • Learn about the thermal properties of different liquids, including alcohols and metals
USEFUL FOR

This discussion is beneficial for individuals seeking cost-effective cooling solutions, such as DIY enthusiasts, homeowners looking to manage indoor temperatures, and anyone interested in thermodynamics and heat transfer principles.

NoOneLt
Hi everyone,

Please help, i need to find liquid or maybe something else witch can freeze in freezer overnight, or even longer, most important thing that this liquid would unfreeze as long as possible.

Or H2O the way to go?

Thank you!
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Chemistry news on Phys.org
NoOneLt said:
Hi everyone,

Please help, i need to find liquid or maybe something else witch can freeze in freezer overnight, or even longer, most important thing that this liquid would unfreeze as long as possible.

Or H2O the way to go?

Thank you!
I will take your question literally. If you want something to take as long as possible to melt, pick something with a high melting point. For example, Tungsten at 3422 degrees centigrade, will stay solid longer than any other metal. Or Gallium, liquid in your hand but will solidify at about 30 C.

So what exactly are you trying to do?

If you are looking to keep something cold, water has a high latent heat of fusion and is therefor very effective. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_pack.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: DrClaude
.Scott said:
If you want something to take as long as possible to melt, pick something with a high melting point.

And not with the highest possible enthalpy of fusion (which is just another way of pointing out how ambiguous the original question is :wink:)?
 
Hey guys, sorry, plain simple, i use big bottle of water to cool down my room sometimes :) Maybe i could use something instead of water, something that will "melt" slower than water? Of course something that is possible to get easily and use indoors.
 
I'm sure water is your best bet.
How hot is your room? How hot is it outside?
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: NoOneLt
And where is your freezer where you are making the ice in the first place? If it's in the same room, you're not really doing much overall cooling...
 
Not in the same room of course :)
 
NoOneLt said:
Not in the same room of course :)
The reason I was asking additional questions is that I am not convinced you're basic technique is the best.
Of course, for most, they would install an air conditioner.
But there may be other methods. Can you cool air through evaporation and then direct it into your room? Instead of cooling your whole room, can you cool only the area where you work?
 
AC would be the best option of course, but not possible, what i do is basically freeze ~2liters bottle of water and put it by the fan witch blows colder air where i need. Cheap and simple, not so effective maybe.

So if 2liter bottle of H2O melts in about 4 hrs a was just curious maybe something could keep up for 6 hours or so... Or i will just freeze 5 liters H2o :)
 
  • #10
Water is the best thing here, high enthalpy of fusion, high specific heat, cheap, reusable. I don't think you will find something better (and not costing you an arm and a leg).
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: NoOneLt and DrClaude
  • #11
Thank you!
 
  • #12
If you keep the fan on low, it will not generate as much heat and the ice will last longer.
Also, the "cool" may end up staying in the immediate area where you need it.
 
  • #13
You could try slightly salted water which has a lower freezing point.
Not a lot lower but could add an hour or so before they need replacing.
 
  • #14
NoOneLt said:
AC would be the best option of course, but not possible, what i do is basically freeze ~2liters bottle of water and put it by the fan witch blows colder air where i need. Cheap and simple, not so effective maybe.
In the USA, air conditioners are rated in "tons", which comes from a time when people dug ice out of lakes and stored it for summer cooling. A typical window air conditioner has a rating of about 3/4 ton, which means it can provide as much cooling as melting 3/4 ton of ice per day. And you are trying to do the same thing with 2 liters of water a day. "not so effective" is the understatement of the month so far.
 
  • #15
Borek said:
Water is the best thing here, high enthalpy of fusion, high specific heat, cheap, reusable. I don't think you will find something better (and not costing you an arm and a leg).

By volume glass has more heat capacity. The heat of melt/freeze water is much more than the heat capacity. .

You can place bottle of grain alcohol in your bucket of water. That drives the temperature lower.

Length of time cooling is determined by the surface of your container. If it isolated or insulated the heat comes out slower.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
7K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
11K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
9K
Replies
7
Views
4K
Replies
27
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
4K