What Positive Integers Satisfy a Specific Condition Involving Square Roots?

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The discussion centers around identifying positive integers $$n$$ that satisfy the condition where $$\sqrt{n+\sqrt{1996}}$$ exceeds $$\sqrt{n-1}$$ by an integer. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving related to square roots and integer solutions.

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  • Post 1 and Post 2 present the same problem statement regarding the condition involving square roots.
  • Post 3 claims that the only solution found is $$n=500$$ and $$k=1$$, expressing surprise at the simplicity of the solution.
  • Post 6 elaborates on the condition leading to an equation and mentions the same solution of $$n=500$$ and $$k=1$$, while also acknowledging a clever manipulation of the radicals.

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Participants appear to agree on the solution of $$n=500$$ and $$k=1$$, but there is an underlying uncertainty expressed by some regarding the possibility of additional solutions.

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The discussion does not clarify whether there are additional solutions or if the identified solution is unique, leaving open the possibility of further exploration.

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Find all positive integers $$n$$ for which $$\sqrt{n+\sqrt{1996}}$$ exceeds $$\sqrt{n-1}$$ by an integer.
 
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anemone said:
Find all positive integers $$n$$ for which $$\sqrt{n+\sqrt{1996}}$$ exceeds $$\sqrt{n-1}$$ by an integer.

The condition leads to the equation... $$\sqrt{n + \sqrt{1996}} = \sqrt{n-1}+ k\ (1)$$ ... and squaring both terms of (2) we arrive to write... $$2\ \sqrt{499} = k^{2} + 2\ k\ \sqrt{n-1} - 1\ (2)$$

The only solution of (2) for n and k integers seems to be n=500 and k=1...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma said:
The only solution of (2) for n and k integers seems to be n=500 and k=1...
Thank Heavens! My head was insisting there be more solutions, otherwise it seemed too easy.

(Wait) Of course now I just jinxed myself!

-Dan
 
First

$\displaystyle \lim_{n \to \infty} \sqrt{n+\sqrt{1996}}-\sqrt{n-1} = 0$.

It not hard to show that the function is decreasing and when $n = 1$, $\sqrt{n+\sqrt{1996}}-\sqrt{n-1}=6.758447736$ then so you really only need to check when the difference is either $1, 2, 3, 4, 5$ or $6$ and only 1 gives that $n$ is an integer.
 
Thanks to those for participating in this challenge problem.

My solution:

Let $$\sqrt{n+\sqrt{1996}}-\sqrt{n-1}=k$$, where $$k$$ is an integer.

$$\sqrt{n+\sqrt{1996}}=k+\sqrt{n-1}$$

$$n+\sqrt{1996}=k^2+n-1+2k\sqrt{n-1}$$

$$n+\sqrt{1996}=k^2+n-1+\sqrt{4k^2(n-1)}$$

By equating the radicand from both sides, we get

$$1996=4k^2(n-1)$$

$$499=k^2(n-1)$$

Since 499 is a prime number, and $$k^2=1$$, we can conclude that

$$n-1=499$$ or $$n=500$$ is the only solution to the problem.
 
Nice trick with the radicands. (Bow)

-Dan
 
chisigma said:
The condition leads to the equation... $$\sqrt{n + \sqrt{1996}} = \sqrt{n-1}+ k\ (1)$$ ... and squaring both terms of (2) we arrive to write... $$2\ \sqrt{499} = k^{2} + 2\ k\ \sqrt{n-1} - 1\ (2)$$

The only solution of (2) for n and k integers seems to be n=500 and k=1...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

nice deduction by making radicals same on both sides
 

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