What Science Field Should I Pursue to Help Accelerate the Singularity?

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The discussion revolves around the question of which scientific field a student should pursue to contribute to the advancement of technology and the concept of the singularity. Participants explore various disciplines, including physics, engineering, neuroscience, nanotechnology, and artificial intelligence, while considering factors such as job prospects, personal interests, and financial viability.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) expresses a strong interest in mathematics and physics, aiming to become a theoretical physicist, but is influenced by their father's suggestion to pursue a more lucrative field like medicine.
  • Some participants propose neuroscience as a promising field for the OP to consider.
  • Others suggest engineering disciplines, such as electrical or mechanical engineering, as they require a background in math and physics and are perceived as lucrative.
  • The OP expresses interest in nanotechnology and artificial intelligence but is uncertain about their appeal.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of pursuing a field one is passionate about, warning against practical advice that may lead to regret.
  • There are conflicting views on the job market for electrical engineering, with some participants citing job losses and slow growth projections, while others report a demand for skilled engineers in their regions.
  • Concerns are raised about the saturation of the job market for certain engineering fields and the bleak prospects for pure science careers compared to engineering.
  • Discussion includes reflections on the role of technology in improving living standards and contributing to the singularity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best field to pursue or the job market conditions for various disciplines. There are multiple competing views regarding the demand for engineering jobs and the viability of pursuing a career in physics versus engineering.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various job market statistics and personal experiences, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion reflects differing regional job markets and individual perspectives on career satisfaction versus financial stability.

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This discussion may be useful for students considering career paths in science and engineering, particularly those interested in the intersection of technology and future advancements.

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I am 17 year old student currently doing the first year of my IB diploma in Africa. in the entirety of my life all my subjects were one's that will orient me towards a future in a scientific field which I often argued with my father about. I am highly interested in mathematics and physics and am insanely fond about the coming singularity and the new technology that will emerge and forever change our world. Throughout most of my life my aim was to become a theoretical physicist as I thoroughly enjoyed ideas of novel futuristic devices that I often saw in Sci-fi movies believing that physicists were the originators of most of the technology we see in the world today this notion backed up by the fact that I would frequently watch numerous interviews of Dr. Michio Kaku's and notice how he portrayed physicists such as himself in such a great light. But then, my father had a really enlightening talk with me about how physicists are no longer as required as before and he'd prefer that I choose a more lucrative field like medicine as 'physics is running down the drain'.The thing is I am looking for a field in science which is very promising and that would surely thrust the Earth closer towards the alleged singularity, but that as well pays and in itself is highly interesting. I hope I am not asking for too much and it would be really ecstatic if someone gave me some good options.
 
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To the OP:

Since you stated that you are interested in mathematics and physics, along with an interest in technology, have you thought about possibly studying engineering (e.g. electrical or mechanical engineering, chemical engineering)? All engineering disciplines require a decent background in math and physics, and they are quite lucrative as well.
 
But I was thinking along the lines of nanotechnology or artificial intelligence, I just don't know how interesting those fields really are.
 
Money makes the world go round. My daddy told me that when I was 5 years old.

I have seen nothing since then to tell me he was wrong.

Go for the fields in high demand like elec and mech engineering. These field pay and jobs are a plenty.

It's ok to dream at age 17...but again, money matters!

Before I got my elec engineering degree, I used to burn, blow up or smoke anything I tried to wire.
Now, with my education, I now wire some of the biggest factories in the world. (only 2 are currently on fire...lol...kidding)
 
psparky said:
Go for the fields in high demand like elec and mech engineering. These field pay and jobs are a plenty.

Where do you get that idea from? Electrical engineering shed 10% of existing jobs last year and is expected to grow slower than average over the next ten years (per the bureau of labor statistics). I go to an engineering fair every quarter along with some young electrical engineering students and there are not many people looking for EE, there are some, but not many.

I would agree that those job and career prospects are better than pure science and research prospects, but I would not call them high demand.
 
ModusPwnd said:
Where do you get that idea from? Electrical engineering shed 10% of existing jobs last year and is expected to grow slower than average over the next ten years (per the bureau of labor statistics). I go to an engineering fair every quarter along with some young electrical engineering students and there are not many people looking for EE, there are some, but not many.

I would agree that those job and career prospects are better than pure science and research prospects, but I would not call them high demand.

Workin in Northern Ohio over past 5 years, there are plenty of jobs in this area. My company wishes they could find more good people. I don't pay much attention to statistics, just reality.
 
If you are really good in math, do physics. There are enough jobs to do what you love.
If you don't, you will look back in future years with regret. You only have one life, live it.
Beware of practical advice. I am a physicist, and my only regret is that I spent four years in EE before
physics grad school.
 
Meir Achuz said:
If you are really good in math, do physics. There are enough jobs to do what you love.
If you don't, you will look back in future years with regret. You only have one life, live it.
Beware of practical advice. I am a physicist, and my only regret is that I spent four years in EE before
physics grad school.

Wow! Amazing how opinions vary!

That typically brings the age old question..."what would YOU do?"
 
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psparky said:
Wow! Amazing how opinions vary!

That typically brings the age old question..."what would YOU do?"

Do it all... :-p:cool::zzz:
 
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ModusPwnd said:
Where do you get that idea from? Electrical engineering shed 10% of existing jobs last year and is expected to grow slower than average over the next ten years (per the bureau of labor statistics). I go to an engineering fair every quarter along with some young electrical engineering students and there are not many people looking for EE, there are some, but not many.

I would agree that those job and career prospects are better than pure science and research prospects, but I would not call them high demand.

First of all, where are you located? And at the engineering fair you attend, what are the most high-demand fields, besides petroleum?

I am located in Canada and electrical engineers are in high demand (I see many job postings for electrical engineers, both entry-level and experienced).
 
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My impressions is that, compared to most physics disciplines, most engineering disciplines are a job gold mine. EE may have lost 10% job market, but has it come close to the bleakness of the physics job market?
 
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Where do you get that idea from? Electrical engineering shed 10% of existing jobs last year and is expected to grow slower than average over the next ten years (per the bureau of labor statistics).

perhaps the world is getting saturated with electronic computer gizmos and consumer toys

but power is alive and well

and you can't offshore the electric grid.

genius01 said:
The thing is I am looking for a field in science which is very promising and that would surely thrust the Earth closer towards the alleged singularity,

Well, i don't know where in Africa you live or how developed it is there.
When i was a freshman way back in (19)64
i sat in math class next to a young fellow from Saudi Arabia.
He told me he had a genuine desire to go back and help his country build its electric grid infrastructure. He said much of the country was very poor ... remember this was 50 years ago...

I thought he was a pretty noble fellow.

Progress toward "singularity" happens when people are freed from the toils of everyday existence so have time to devote to it. To that end, anyone who contributes toward bettering his country's living standards is making a contribution, however humble it may be.
 
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StatGuy2000 said:
First of all, where are you located? And at the engineering fair you attend, what are the most high-demand fields, besides petroleum?

Petroleum? I am in the pacific north west. The demand seemed the greatest for software developers, IT and maybe civil engineering.

Let me just reiterate I did see some demand for EE (and a little more for ME) and I do think there are more career options with it than with any pure science degree (of which there was no demand, not surprisingly, at an engineering fair). But I do not get the impression, from the fair, the two EE teachers I've had, job postings and labor statistics, that it is in "high" demand. The caveat is always "skilled" or "good" engineers needed which in my experience translates into non-entry level with years of experience or cream of the crop graduate.
 
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ModusPwnd said:
Petroleum? I am in the pacific north west. The demand seemed the greatest for software developers, IT and maybe civil engineering.

Let me just reiterate I did see some demand for EE (and a little more for ME) and I do think there are more career options with it than with any pure science degree (of which there was no demand, not surprisingly, at an engineering fair). But I do not get the impression, from the fair, the two EE teachers I've had, job postings and labor statistics, that it is in "high" demand. The caveat is always "skilled" or "good" engineers needed which in my experience translates into non-entry level with years of experience or cream of the crop graduate.

You are correct sir. It is always tough starting out...commencement means "the beginning". Some guys get hired right out of school...some do not.
The guys that seemlessly enter the work force ussually have an internship going.

I remember walking thru one of those job fairs senior year. It was tough, like I was invisible...so I feel you there.

Personally, because of my background and job market back in 2004, I took a job as a construction superintendent for 5 years because I couldn't get a job as engineer. Didn't love it at the time, but it turned out to be a good thing. Job market shifted and needed newer engineers...bada bing, bada boom, now I'm an experienced engineer with commercial construction background and all is good.

We all got to pay our dues one way or another.
 
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Hi genius01,

You're in some pretty good company. This kind of question comes up often and tends to spark a lot of debate. On one hand you have an interest in physics in popular media, but on the other you have your parents arguing for practicality.

The first thing to point out is that if you decide to study physics, what you are doing is furthering your education in a specific academic field and this is not necessarily training for a specific vocation. Fields like engineering and medicine have professions associated with them and therefore studies in those fields translate more directly into careers on graduation.

Physics *can* lead to a career in academia, but the probability is low and the majority of people who start out studying physics end up doing other things. The statistics suggest that they end up doing reasonably well financially compared to all other majors (look up the AIP data for example).

All of that said, there are a lot of options for someone with interests in nanotechnology and artificial intelligence. On the nanotech side of things you could look at programs in material science, physical chemistry, engineering physics or even specialized "nanotechnology" programs. On the artificial intelligence side there is computer science, computer engineering or neuroscience.

If you're not sure what to do, one option is to aim to simply enter a general science or engineering program for your first year of university. Then take the courses that interest you and make your decision once you've had the opportunity to learn a little more about each field.
 

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