What Should Be the Banking Angle for a Curve Negotiated Without Friction?

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The discussion focuses on determining the optimal banking angle for a curve that allows a car to negotiate it safely at a maximum speed without relying on friction, given a static friction coefficient of 0.84. The problem involves calculating the necessary banking angle for a curve with a radius of 130 meters. Participants emphasize the importance of comparing centripetal acceleration with the force of friction to find the solution. The conversation highlights the lack of prior instruction on this specific topic in the academic setting.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of centripetal acceleration
  • Knowledge of static friction and its coefficient
  • Familiarity with the physics of banked curves
  • Basic trigonometry for angle calculations
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  • Calculate the maximum speed of a car on an unbanked curve using the coefficient of static friction.
  • Learn how to derive the banking angle formula for curves without friction.
  • Explore the relationship between centripetal force and gravitational force on banked curves.
  • Study examples of banked curve problems in physics textbooks or online resources.
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Students in physics courses, automotive engineers, and anyone interested in understanding the dynamics of vehicle motion on curves.

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A car can negotiate an unbanked curve safely at a certain maximum speed when the coefficient of static friction between the tires and the ground is 0.84. at what angle should the same curve be banked for the car to negotiate the curve safely at the same maximum speed without relying on friction?



Okay, so my professor hasn't gone over this in lecture. I have already done a problem kind of similar to this one with banked curves, except I was trying to find the "safest speed" of the car to go around a curve with a radius of 130 m that was banked at 3 degrees. But I don't even know where to start with this problem because all I know is the static friction is 0.84. And I know that I'm trying to find out the angle the curve should be banked for the car to make it around at the same speed but with no friction.
 
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lpcampbe said:
But I don't even know where to start with this problem because all I know is the static friction is 0.84.

Hi lpcampbe! :smile:

Start by working out what the speed is …

you need to compare the centripetal acceleration with the force of friction. :smile:
 

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