What the following statement exactly mean?

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The discussion centers around the definition of a topological space, specifically the meaning of the phrase "a distinguished collection of subsets" and its relation to open sets within the context of topology. Participants explore the necessary components for defining a topological space, including examples to illustrate the concept.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the term "distinguished collection" in the context of topological spaces.
  • Another participant explains that a topological space requires an underlying set and a topology, which is a collection of subsets that must satisfy certain axioms.
  • Examples are provided to illustrate valid topological spaces, such as the indiscrete space and the Sierpinski topological space, as well as an example that does not satisfy the axioms of a topological space.
  • There is a query about whether "a distinguished collection of subsets" and "to be called the open sets" refer to the same set, ##\mathcal{T}##.
  • Participants confirm that ##\mathcal{T}## is indeed the "distinguished collection of subsets" and that its elements are defined as open sets.

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Participants generally agree on the interpretation of the terms discussed, particularly regarding the definition of ##\mathcal{T}## as the collection of open sets. However, the initial understanding of the terminology is clarified through the discussion.

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Some participants may have varying levels of familiarity with the axioms of topological spaces, which could influence their understanding of the examples provided.

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what the following statement exactly mean :"A topological space is a set M with a distinguished collection of subsets,to be called the open sets".and I don't understand the meaning of "distinguished collection ".it's better have some example.thanks
 
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It means that in order to give a topological space, you need to give two pieces of information:

1) First, you need to give an underlying set ##X##
2) Secondly, you need to give a set ##\mathcal{T}## which consist of subsets of ##X##. This set ##\mathcal{T}## is called the topology. It can be completely arbitrary, but it does need to satisfy the axioms of a topological space.

For example,
1) I give you the set ##X=\mathbb{R}##
2) I give the topology ##\mathcal{T} = \{\emptyset,\mathbb{R}\}##.
These two pieces of data specify a topological space, called an indiscrete space.

Other example:
1) I give you the set ##X=\{0,1\}##
2) I give the topology ##\mathcal{T} = \{\emptyset,\{0,1\},\{0\}\}##
These two pieces of data specify the Sierpinski topological space.

Obviously, not everything will be a topological space. For example
1) I give you ##X=\{0,1,2\}##
2) I give you ##\mathcal{T} = \{\emptyset, \{0,1,2\}, \{0,1\}, \{1,2\}\}##
These are again two pieces of data, but they do not specify a topological space because ##\mathcal{T}## does not satisfy the axioms. Indeed, ##\{0,1\}\cap\{1,2\} = \{1\}## is not in ##\mathcal{T}##.
 
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both “a distinguished collection of subsets”and “to be called the open sets” refer to the set T ?
 
lee.spi said:
both “a distinguished collection of subsets”and “to be called the open sets” refer to the set T ?

Yes, ##\mathcal{T}## is the "distinguished collection of subsets". Any element of ##\mathcal{T}## is by definition an open set.
 
micromass said:
Yes, ##\mathcal{T}## is the "distinguished collection of subsets". Any element of ##\mathcal{T}## is by definition an open set.

now i understand,thanks
 

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