What three books would you take?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of selecting three books to take into a future where civilization needs to be rebuilt, inspired by the narrative of "The Time Machine" by H.G. Wells. Participants explore various themes including practical survival, philosophical foundations, and cultural enrichment.

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  • Some participants suggest practical books for survival and rebuilding, such as "Back to Basics: A Complete Guide to Traditional Skills" and "The Knowledge: How to Rebuild Our World from Scratch."
  • Others propose philosophical texts, like "Philosophy For Dummies" and "A Treatise of Human Nature" by David Hume, to establish moral frameworks.
  • Several participants mention classic literature, including "Brave New World," "1984," and "The Complete Works of Shakespeare," indicating a desire for cultural continuity.
  • Some participants express skepticism about modeling society after dystopian novels, questioning the implications of such choices.
  • Technical books are also suggested, such as the "CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics" and engineering manuals, emphasizing the importance of scientific knowledge.
  • A few participants humorously suggest unconventional choices, like "50 Shades of Gray" and "The Little Red Book," raising questions about their relevance in a rebuilding context.
  • There are discussions about the role of ethics and morals, with some arguing that these are instinctual while others believe they are learned and should be included in the selection of books.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the types of books that should be prioritized, with multiple competing views on practical versus philosophical versus cultural texts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to rebuilding civilization through literature.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the necessity of certain types of books depend on assumptions about the future society's knowledge and capabilities, which are not universally agreed upon. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the balance between practical knowledge and cultural or ethical considerations.

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In The Time Machine, by HG Wells, George took three books with him when he returned to join Weena and the Eloi, to help rebuild civilization in the distant future.

If you were in his position, which three books would you have taken?
 
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A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in three copies, purely from fear of being moved in time but not in space. Oh, and I'll try to get a spacesuit along too, if possible. And a towel, of course, yes.

edit: oh, the irony, I have 42 posts at the moment
 
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I'm guessing civ is pretty bad. Thinking apocalypse style, so we need to think practical.

(We need to be able to build things) Back to Basics: A Complete Guide to Traditional Skills
(We need a new moral code) Philosophy For Dummies
(We need effective leaders) The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership
 
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley, 1984 - George Orwell, A Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess

I'll rebuild the civilization off the cuff if I have to, I just can't live without having those 3 books to read :p
 
WannabeNewton said:
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley, 1984 - George Orwell, A Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess

You're going to model your society after those three books?? Not sure I want to live there...
 
I used to watch the 1960's 'Time Machine' with my brother and Dad when we were small (before I was interested enough to actually read it), and he used to pose that question to us after we'd finish it. I never could come up with a definitive list, but here's to another transient shot;

1) Feynman Lectures Vol. 1 (I know this sounds cheesy being on PhysicsForums and all, but it makes sense when you think about how child-like the Eloi were).

2) The complete works of Shakespeare

3) David Hume's 'A Treatise of Human Nature'

(I would also try to slip a copy of 'The Hobbit' past whomever would be trying to enforce this simply for that fact that I love that book.)
 
1. CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics
2. Steam, by Babcock and Wilcox
3. To Serve Morlock.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
1. CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics
2. Steam, by Babcock and Wilcox
3. To Serve Morlock.

As an option to your third choice, :biggrin:, I was thinking of something like a physicians handbook, or some bible of pharmaceuticals and their use. But then a good book on classical dynamics would be useful, as would a book on materials science.
 
Complete works of A.C. Doyle
Einstein's ideas and opinions
The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand
 
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Innocents Abroad, by Clemens would have to be the top choice. Insightful and entertaining.
 
  • #12
Probably "The Lord of the Rings"
Others can make the civilization around me. :smile:
 
  • #14
Mark's Mechanical Engineer's Handbook
CRC Handbook of Chemistry
Asimov's "The Sensuous Dirty Old Man"
 
  • #15
Cosmos, by Carl Sagan
Wikipedia.
Understanding Comics: By Scott McCloud.
 
  • #16
I'm a big believer in the idea that as long as you preserve the math the rest can be rebuilt from scratch over time. So maybe a nice math overview or focus on analysis like Tao's, Something more general going over the entire development of it like Penroses's The Road to Reality or A Brief History of Nearly Everything to get an idea of what we have to rebuild, and lastly a practical guide for survival and building the basics of society back like a survivalist guide of some kind.
 
  • #17
What a loaded question. A thorough dictionary, for starters. Preferably NW's 1828 or 1913 with an added section for the words complied since then.
 
  • #18
Jules Verne all books

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  • #19
"The complete worst case scenario survival guide"
"50 Shades of Gray"
"Fluid Mechanics" by Granger
 
  • #20
"For them; The Living" by Robert A. Heinlein
"On Liberty" by John Stuart Mill
"The Science of Discworld" by Terry Pratchett
 
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HuskyNamedNala said:
"50 Shades of Gray"

Are you being serious?
 
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Going back to a world of Morlock cannibals.

"Basic blacksmithing" David harries
"Basic gunsmithing" John Traister
The Art of War Sun Tzu, any good translation
 
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Well, it was between 50 Shades and Twilight. I figure since I have no chance with Kristen Stewart, 50 Shades would jumpstart my marketability as a mate in this post apacolyptic world.
 
  • #24
Einsteins special and General relativity - because it would help in the future either this or a a compilation of physics
Collins dictionary - if I was in the situation in the time machine then I'd want to educate the habitant
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
 
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It might be interesting to turn this on it's head. If you wanted to prevent a rival civilization from advancing, what three books would you give them?
 
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1. Catalog listing detail of the 158 million books in the Library of Congress
2. All 15 petabytes of the Internet Archive
3. The Harry Potter series

HuskyNamedNala said:
"50 Shades of Gray"

If you want some good spankings, why not get a husband instead?

Algr said:
It might be interesting to turn this on it's head. If you wanted to prevent a rival civilization from advancing, what three books would you give them?

If I were to be honest, that would probably end up being against PF rules to write...
 
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Algr said:
It might be interesting to turn this on it's head. If you wanted to prevent a rival civilization from advancing, what three books would you give them?

Stewart Calculus
 
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  • #29
I think morals/ethics are ingrained into our instincts, so no need to waste a book on that. As for politics in the free world, each of us should have enough information in our memories to set a good ground work to build a political structure upon, so no need for that. We would DEFINITELY need a comprehensive chemistry book, because there is just too much utility with chemistry. Since this is a physics forum, most of us might be able to forgo bringing a physics or math book. Granted, much will be lost, but there should be enough knowledge to lay a foundation for many things to be rediscovered.

We would want some book detailing biology, especially edible plants and the basics of the biological sciences. Again, we'd need a groundwork from which other things could be rediscovered. I would presume the future society knows how to survive to a degree, so perhaps it can focus more on the theoretical aspects of biology. In fact, maybe a medicine-based biology book would be better.

Finally, a book that details the history of technology or gives a survey of technology, but written for experts so that there is enough detail to give hints on how to rediscover much of it. I don't know if such a book exists, but it would be very useful. Something that covers the basics of mass farming to the basics of machinery to the basics of computers. An engineering book perhaps, but one that touches on everything.That's my take. No need for religion, ethics or politics, since basic human instinct and reason can recreate much of that much faster than it can technological achievements.
 
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In order to be equally considerate, I would take To Serve Man as one of my choices.
 

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