What type of art do you believe requires the most talent?

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The discussion revolves around the question of which type of art requires the most talent. Participants explore various forms of art, including visual arts, performing arts, and literary arts, while considering the criteria for measuring talent across different disciplines.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that drawing realistic forms with full value requires significant talent.
  • Others argue that the criteria for measuring talent in art are subjective and depend on individual taste.
  • A few participants propose that opera combines multiple art forms and could be seen as a high form of art due to its complexity.
  • Calligraphy, particularly in various cultural styles, is mentioned as requiring a high level of skill and talent.
  • Hyperrealism in 2-D art is noted for its attention to detail and the effort involved in achieving such precision.
  • Some participants express that all forms of art can be done with varying levels of talent, and the quality is proportional to the talent involved.
  • There are discussions about the relative difficulty of different art forms, with some claiming that certain types, like stone sculpting, require more innate talent than others, such as drawing.
  • One participant shares a personal anecdote about a debate between poetry and film as the highest art forms, highlighting the subjective nature of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on what constitutes the most talented art form, with no consensus reached. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views on the criteria for measuring artistic talent.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the difficulty in comparing talents across different art forms and the influence of personal taste on perceptions of artistic merit.

  • #31
TheStatutoryApe said:
I love bagpipes.
As do I. I wuz just goin' with the flow... :wink:
 
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  • #32
The most difficult... the arts are just to abstact to define or evaluate. Personally, one of the greatest artist that embodies realism, detail, abstractness, and thinking out of the box is none other than M.C. Escher.

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  • #33
I like cumulus clouds better than cirrus clouds, but neither are better than the other. Comparing cumulus clouds to sandstone cliffs doesn't make my preferences any higher. The art is in the perception of the artist. The quality of the art comes from his ability to express his perception. The most basic tools any artist has are his senses and his imagination.

I can look at scenery and see it with my eyes. I can't paint a picture of it that expresses clearly what I see. Though most everyone can see, it is the most basic talent of a painter to use their sight well. An artist that excels at expressing their perception is, IMO, the highest form of artist, regardless of their art.
 
  • #34
Phrak said:
I really can't speek for anyone else (what is art?, what is talent), but personally and currently the most captivating artists for me, in plural, are those who have constructed and add to this forum.


I like this answer.
 
  • #35
I'm personally staggered by the huge creativity and technique behind many major musical compositions, ranging from Bach's solo suites for violin and cello to Rachmaninov's piano concertos. It's not difficult to write simple music, even for full orchestra, but being able to write great music is a rare skill. Nowadays with all sorts of electronic aids and instruments it may be possible to manufacture film or TV music quite rapidly, but only a few current composers (such as the film music composer John Williams) manage to produce convincing results.

I'm also equally amazed by some musical performers; I'm supposed to be "good" myself at several instruments and can play various well-known concertos, but from where I am the great pianists and violinists are still far in the distance above me.

I'm particular impressed by pianists who can play difficult works with apparent ease; I know from personal experience that piano music frequently requires a much greater "bandwidth" of information flow than most other musical instruments because of the sheer number of notes involved and the independence required between many different threads being played using only two hands!
 
  • #36
Vogon poetry
 
  • #37
Tricky considering Vogon is also described as the third worst poetry of the universe, but just maybe there is room for improvement in all three of the last posts by combination, in the form of Vogon-style-versed-pf-replies-accompanying-Bach's solo suites for violin and cello.
 

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