What type of solid elements will not burn

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The discussion revolves around the question of which solid elements, if any, do not burn even at extremely high temperatures. Participants explore the nature of burning, the conditions under which elements may or may not combust, and the definitions of solid elements in relation to temperature changes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the premise of the question, suggesting that solid elements will not remain solid at the highest temperatures.
  • There is a discussion about the reactivity of elements in high oxygen atmospheres, with some noting that certain oxides (like ash or rust) do not burn.
  • One participant mentions that elements like helium do not form oxides and therefore do not burn, while others argue that most solid elements will burn under the right conditions.
  • Some participants highlight that the question seems to conflate elements with compounds, noting that many fireproof materials are compounds rather than pure elements.
  • There is a suggestion that no solid elements at room temperature are immune to burning when conditions are extreme enough.
  • The concept of "hard to burn" is discussed, with participants indicating that burning depends on specific conditions and definitions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of burning and the conditions under which elements may or may not combust. There is no consensus on which solid elements do not burn, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the definition of "solid" may change with temperature, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions necessary for burning.

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what type of sold elements will not burn...even in the highest heat temperature..
 
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Oxygen?

You mean "solid" or "sold" (which you can buy)?
If it is solid, they will stop being solid in the "highest heat temperature". So it does not really make sense.
 
A lot of things will burn in a high oxygen atmosphere. (Do you count fluorine reaction as burning? Fluorine is even more reactive.) But a simple answer is that something that is already burned (like ash or rust, various oxides) won't burn.
 
taregg said:
what type of sold elements will not burn...even in the highest heat temperature..

Can you think of any substance that remains a solid at 'the highest heat temperature'?
 
Khashishi said:
A lot of things will burn in a high oxygen atmosphere. (Do you count fluorine reaction as burning? Fluorine is even more reactive.) But a simple answer is that something that is already burned (like ash or rust, various oxides) won't burn.

Yes. But will Oxygen burn in a high oxygen atmosphere?:)
 
If the temperature is high enough, the atoms will all become ionised and you will have a Plasma. Chemistry-wise, all bets are off and Chemical reactions will not take place as molecules won't be formed.
 
I mean solid elements from the periodic table...
 
Just look up tables of oxides - if an element doesn't appear as an oxide, then it doesn't burn.

Some (e.g., aluminum, sodium) are extremely reactive and are never found in pure form unless protected from oxygen.

See http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oxides
 
can you give some examples ...
 
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taregg said:
can you give some examples ...

Helium: doesn't form an oxide, so doesn't burn.
Iron: does form an oxide, so will burn if the conditions are right. That's how an oxyacetylene cutitng torch works.

(you may object that only one of those is a solid - but depending on the temperature and pressure they both could be either solid, liquid, or gas).

It's worth pointing out that you specified elements that won't burn, as opposed to compounds. That's a somewhat odd constraint, as most of our fireproof materials are not elements - instead we look for compounds that don't react readily with oxygen because they're already strongly oxidized (not necessarily with oxygen).
 
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Taking the question at face value, the answer is none. All elements that are solid at room temperature will burn.
 
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Is there any point to this thread? It's beginning to resemble a game of Top Trumps.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
Is there any point to this thread? It's beginning to resemble a game of Top Trumps.

I don't think I know that game. how does it go?
 
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It's a card game. There must be dozens of available subjects. Each card in the pack pack has a list of characteristics of, say, different models of car. Top speed, age, engine size, number of seats etc.. One player picks a card - say speed = 100mph and the other player has to find a card that beats speed = 100 mph. If he can, he gets both cards and its his turn. To win, you need to know which feature of each card is a possible winner - so a 1908 Austin will beat a 1998 Porsche on age but the Porsch will win on top speed. It suits boys with a 'catalogue' mind and dads are hopeless at it because they don't know all the cards like their son does. You learn the statistics but nothing about the way motor cars work.
 
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taregg said:
I mean solid elements from the periodic table...
A periodic table doesn't tell you if elements are solids at high temperatures. That's a critical flaw in your question that you still seem to be missing: solids aren't solids at high temperature.
 
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which element is hard to burn . ..calcium or lithium...and why.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwv7egAz71M

None of them is "hard" to burn.
But of course it would depend on what do you mean by "hard".
You can "burn" them in the flame of a gas burner.



 
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