What was the mistake in solving for the speeds of two marbles after a collision?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the elastic collision of two marbles with different masses and initial velocities. The original poster attempts to solve for the final speeds of both marbles after the collision using conservation of momentum and kinetic energy equations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation laws and the setup of equations for the collision. There are questions regarding the interpretation of the answers and the steps taken to arrive at them. Some participants suggest simplifying the equations due to one marble being initially at rest.

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There is ongoing dialogue about the calculations and the need for clarity in showing work. Some participants have provided guidance on formatting equations and emphasized the importance of maintaining significant figures. The original poster acknowledges an algebra mistake but does not provide further details on the resolution.

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Participants note the importance of correctly identifying which answer corresponds to which question, as well as the potential for rounding errors in calculations. There is an emphasis on the need for clear communication of the work done in solving the problem.

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Homework Statement
A 49.0 g marble moving at 1.90 m/s strikes a 28.0 g marble at rest. Note that the collision is elastic and that it is a "head-on" collision so all motion is along a line.

What is the speed of 49.0 g marble immediately after the collision?
What is the speed of 28.0 g marble immediately after the collision?
Relevant Equations
1. m1v1i+m2v2i=m1v1f+m2v2f
2. 1/2m1v1i^2+1/2m2v2i^2=1/2m1v1f^2+1/2m2v2f^2
Solved equation 1 for v1f and then substituted into equation 2 and solved for v2f. Got 2.22 as the answer, but it said the answer is incorrect.
 
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anotherphysicsgeek said:
Homework Statement: A 49.0 g marble moving at 1.90 m/s strikes a 28.0 g marble at rest. Note that the collision is elastic and that it is a "head-on" collision so all motion is along a line.

What is the speed of 49.0 g marble immediately after the collision?
What is the speed of 28.0 g marble immediately after the collision?
Relevant Equations: 1. m1v1i+m2v2i=m1v1f+m2v2f
2. 1/2m1v1i^2+1/2m2v2i^2=1/2m1v1f^2+1/2m2v2f^2

Got 4.4333 as the answer
This is the answer to what? There are two questions.
 
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Hill said:
This is the answer to what? There are two questions.
Sorry it was the answer to the second question. Also going back and re-plugging in the numbers I got 2.22, but it's still wrong.
 
anotherphysicsgeek said:
Sorry it was the answer to the second question. Also going back and re-plugging in the numbers I got 2.22, but it's still wrong.
You need to show your work. Also, take a look at the Latex guide for maths equations, under the help pages.

In a question like this, where one mass is initially at rest, I would automatically simplify the relevant Equations. If you reply to this post, you'll see the Latex I used. I prefer ##u, v## to ##v_i, v_f##. E.g.
$$m_1u_1 = m_1v_1+m_2v_2$$$$\frac 1 2 m_1u_1^2 = \frac 1 2 m_1v_1^2 +\frac 1 2 m_2v_2^2$$
 
anotherphysicsgeek said:
Sorry it was the answer to the second question. Also going back and re-plugging in the numbers I got 2.22, but it's still wrong.
That's not far off. Maybe a rounding error. Keep at least three sig figs until the end.
But it is silly having to guess. As @PeroK says, post your working.
 
Thank you guys, and I'll fix that in the future. I ended up finding the correct answer and it was an algebra mistake.
 
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