MHB What went wrong when applying the FTOC to maximize arc length?

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The discussion centers on the application of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTOC) to find the launch angle that maximizes the arc length of a projectile's trajectory under gravity. The initial attempt to differentiate the arc length integral led to an incorrect conclusion that the maximum occurs at 45 degrees, while the actual optimal angle is approximately 56.5 degrees. The error was identified as a misunderstanding of the dependence of the integrand on the angle \(\theta\), necessitating the use of the correct form of the FTOC. Ultimately, the realization was that the FTOC may not be the most effective method for this problem. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying calculus principles in physics problems.
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Yesterday on another forum, someone asked for the launch angle which will maximize the arc-length of the trajectory for a projectile, assuming gravity is the only force on the projectile after the launch.

I eliminated the parameter t to get the trajectory:

$\displaystyle y=\tan(\theta)x-\frac{g\sec^2(\theta)}{2v_0^2}x^2$

and so the arc-length is given by:

$\displaystyle s=\int_0^{\frac{v_0^2}{g}\sin(2\theta)} \sqrt{1+\left(\frac{dy}{dx} \right)^2}\,dx$

Now, at this point I wanted to differentiate this using the derivative form of the FTOC, and what I got was:

$\displaystyle \frac{ds}{d\theta}=\frac{2v_0^2}{g}\cos(2\theta) \sqrt{1+\left(\frac{dy}{dx} \right)^2}$

This implies that the maximum occurs for:

$\displaystyle \theta=45^{\circ}$

Which I knew was incorrect. The OP stated the solution was approximately:

$\displaystyle \theta=56.5^{\circ}$

I gave up this route and went ahead and integrated through a myriad of substitutions to finally find:

$\displaystyle s(\theta)=\frac{v_0^2}{g}(\sin(\theta)+\cos^2( \theta)\ln(\sec(\theta)+\tan(\theta)))$

Differentiating and equating to zero eventually led to:

$\displaystyle f(\theta)=\sin(\theta)\ln(\sec(\theta)+\tan(\theta))-1=0$

and using Newton's method, I found:

$\displaystyle \theta\approx56.4658351275^{\circ}$

My question is, what did I do wrong when trying to apply the FTOC? I suspect I am not correctly applying the chain rule.
 
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MarkFL said:
Yesterday on another forum, someone asked for the launch angle which will maximize the arc-length of the trajectory for a projectile, assuming gravity is the only force on the projectile after the launch.

I eliminated the parameter t to get the trajectory:

$\displaystyle y=\tan(\theta)x-\frac{g\sec^2(\theta)}{2v_0^2}x^2$

and so the arc-length is given by:

$\displaystyle s=\int_0^{\frac{v_0^2}{g}\sin(2\theta)} \sqrt{1+\left(\frac{dy}{dx} \right)^2}\,dx$

Now, at this point I wanted to differentiate this using the derivative form of the FTOC, and what I got was:

$\displaystyle \frac{ds}{d\theta}=\frac{2v_0^2}{g}\cos(2\theta) \sqrt{1+\left(\frac{dy}{dx} \right)^2}$

This implies that the maximum occurs for:

$\displaystyle \theta=45^{\circ}$

Which I knew was incorrect. The OP stated the solution was approximately:

$\displaystyle \theta=56.5^{\circ}$

My question is, what did I do wrong when trying to apply the FTOC? I suspect I am not correctly applying the chain rule.

You need to account for the fact that the integrand is also dependent on \(\theta\).

If I have done this right the FTOC you need is:

If:

\[s(\theta)=\int_a^{f(\theta)} h(x,\theta) dx\]

Then:

\[s'(\theta)=f'(\theta)h(f(\theta),\theta)+\int_a^{f(\theta)}\frac{\partial h(x,\theta)}{\partial \theta} dx \]

CB
 
Thank you! It seems the FTOC wouldn't really help me in this case.
 

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