What were the consequences of John McCain's affair on his political career?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of John Edwards' affair on his political career and the broader impact on the Democratic Party, particularly in the context of the 2008 presidential election. Participants explore themes of personal conduct, public perception, and the potential consequences for political candidates.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disappointment in John Edwards for potentially damaging the Democratic Party with his affair, suggesting that such personal issues could overshadow political agendas.
  • Others argue that personal conduct, such as infidelity, should not be a primary concern when evaluating a politician's capabilities.
  • A few participants reflect on the public's tendency to focus on personal scandals rather than substantive political issues, indicating a belief that this detracts from meaningful discourse.
  • There are discussions about the likelihood of hidden affairs among politicians, with some emphasizing that such speculation can lead to unfounded fear mongering.
  • Some participants draw comparisons between Edwards and John McCain, noting that both have faced scrutiny over their personal lives, but opinions vary on how this affects their political viability.
  • One participant mentions that while they do not trust politicians in general, they believe that past figures like Thomas Jefferson managed to serve effectively despite personal controversies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether personal conduct should influence political careers. There are competing views on the relevance of infidelity in assessing a candidate's qualifications and the implications for the Democratic Party.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect personal opinions without supporting evidence, and there are references to public perceptions that may not be universally held. The discussion includes speculative claims about the potential for hidden affairs among politicians.

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This discussion may be of interest to those examining the intersection of personal conduct and political careers, as well as individuals interested in the dynamics of public perception in political contexts.

  • #61
It's pretty sad that this is an issue. After all, this man should not have had a viable political carreer after it came to light that he "channeled" a dead child in court. He should have been off the stage long ago.
 
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  • #62
Man, this aint no news. Why the hell should we care who the man is tapping?! You people mix political and personal matters too much.
 
  • #63
In order to guarantee canditates haven't cheated on their wives, you should vote for women. Scratch that, now even that won't work.
 
  • #64
Jordan Joab said:
Politicians should be asexual.

We could ritually neuter them...just make it part of the swearing-in ceremony.
 
  • #65
Evo said:
Was McCain's affair during his previous unsuccessful bid for the Republican Presidential candidacy? Serioulsy, I don't know, shows how much attention I paid to his career. :redface:
McCain's affair began in 1979, six years after his release from POW camp. He divorced in 80. Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain#Naval_training.2C_first_marriage.2C_and_Vietnam_assignment
which concurs w/ everything I'd read/heard.

turbo-1 said:
...Edwards looks like a saint compared to McCain in the "infidelity race".

Evo said:
... he wasn't pretending to be a leader in moral values while cheating on his wife (did you see the video where Edwards is laughing about his moral values speech he was about to give?), I'd say Edwards is a bit slimier, just my opinion.
Exactly, _that_ is the point. In contrast to Edwards moral values laugh-a- lot, McCain had this to say about his marriage failure:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-chapter5.html
...Regarding his first marriage, McCain said that he "had not shown the same determination to rebuild (his) personal life" as he had shown in his military career, and that "marriages can be hard to recover after great time and distance have separated a husband and wife. We are different people when we reunite...But my marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the war. The blame was entirely mine."
 
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  • #66
McCain didn't try running with a secret affair in his life. That would have completely ruined Edwards and the democrats, which is extremely risky, stupid, and selfish.

If he hadn't run, then the affair came out, then another 8 years from now he wanted to run, I'm sure it wouldn't be as big of a deal any more.
 
  • #67
lisab said:
We could ritually neuter them...just make it part of the swearing-in ceremony.

You would do that to Hilary if she should ascend? Or reserve that ritual only for not previously transgendered men?
 
  • #68
mheslep said:
McCain's affair began in 1979, six years after his release from POW camp. He divorced in 80. Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain#Naval_training.2C_first_marriage.2C_and_Vietnam_assignment
which concurs w/ everything I'd read/heard.
That's only the last one. There were others before that. From your wiki link:
Having been rehabilitated, by late 1974, McCain had his flight status reinstated, and in 1976 he became commanding officer of a training squadron stationed in Florida.[53][56] He turned around an undistinguished unit and won the squadron its first Meritorious Unit Commendation.[54] During this period in Florida, McCain had extramarital affairs, the McCains' marriage began to falter, and he would later accept blame.[57][58]
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In April 1979,[54] McCain met and began a relationship with Cindy Lou Hensley, a teacher from Phoenix, Arizona, the only child of the founder of Hensley & Co.[58]
 

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