What will the traveler weigh on another planet?

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The problem involves calculating the weight of a traveler on another planet, given their weight on Earth and the mass and radius of the other planet in relation to Earth. The subject area includes gravitational physics and the application of Newton's law of universal gravitation.

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  • Participants discuss using ratios to simplify the calculation of weight on another planet. There are attempts to apply Newton's law of universal gravitation and concerns about the correct application of mass and radius in the calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using ratios instead of direct calculations, while others have pointed out errors in the original calculations regarding the traveler's mass and the treatment of the radius. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide. There is an ongoing discussion about the correct setup of the problem and the necessary conversions between weight and mass.

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A Space traveler weighs 695N on Earth. What will the traveler weigh on another planet whose radius is 3 times that of Earth and whose mass is 2 times that of earth?

So for this problem I got the mass and radius of the earth
Mass of earth= (5.98 *10^24)
Radius of Eath- (6.38 *10^6)
Since it says mass of Earth is twice of Earth I multipled it by two (5.98 * 10^24)*2= 1.196*10^25
and I multiplied the radius of Earth by three (6.38*10^6)*3=19140000

Then I plugged it into the Newton's law of universal gravitation formula
F=G(m1*m2/R^2)
G=6.674*10^-11

F=(6.674*10^-11)((1.196*10^25)/(19140000^2))=2.898*10^-10
but its wrong what did I do wrong. Thank you!
 
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pookisantoki said:
F=(6.674*10^-11)((1.196*10^25)/(19140000^2))=2.898*10^-10
but its wrong what did I do wrong. Thank you!
Two problems:
(1) You forgot the traveler's mass.
(2) You messed up the exponent.

Rather than do all that number crunching, just use ratios. Much less chance of error that way.
 
Ratios...How would i set that up?

Would i just put (695*2)/3?
 
pookisantoki said:
Ratios...How would i set that up?

Would i just put (695*2)/3?
Almost, but not exactly. (The radius should be squared.)

Try this:
Weight on Earth = GmM/R^2 = 695 N
Weight on planet = Gm(2M)/(3R)^2 = ?

Compare those two expressions.
 
so I plugged the formula in:
((6.67*10^-11)(695)((5.98*10^24)*2))/(((6.38*10^6)^2)*3)=4540.244
I plugged that in as the answer but it's still wrong...Am i missing a step? or is my calculation wrong?
 
pookisantoki said:
so I plugged the formula in:
((6.67*10^-11)(695)((5.98*10^24)*2))/(((6.38*10^6)^2)*3)=4540.244
I plugged that in as the answer but it's still wrong...Am i missing a step? or is my calculation wrong?
Two new problems:
(1) 695 is the traveler's weight, not his mass. Find his mass.
(2) You multiplied the demoninator by 3 after you squared the radius instead of before.

But this is still the hard way. I'd still play around with the suggestion for using ratios that I gave in my last post:

Hint: Weight on planet = Gm(2M)/(3R)^2 = 2/(3^2) * GmM/R^2
(And you already know what GmM/R^2 equals.)
 

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