Find the attractive force of gravity between two objects

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational force between two lead spheres based on historical methods used by Henry Cavendish. The original poster presents a calculation using Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation and provides specific dimensions and assumptions regarding the masses and distances involved.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants question the determination of the masses of the spheres and the use of gravitational acceleration in the calculations. There is discussion about whether the masses can be canceled out in the equation for gravitational force.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the importance of including the density of lead in the calculations and have pointed out potential errors in the mass assumptions. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the calculation of gravitational force and the role of mass.

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There is a noted absence of the density of lead in the original calculations, which may affect the determination of mass and consequently the gravitational force. The discussion reflects confusion over the application of gravitational acceleration in this context.

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Henry Cavendish succeeded in measuring the value of the constant "G" way back in the late 1700s. His method was to put two known masses at a known distance and measure the attractive force between them; then he could use Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation to find "G".
The basic idea was to put a big sphere of a dense material next to a small sphere of dense material. Cavendish chose lead. He made one big ball with radius 5.6 inches, and one small ball with radius 1.9 inches. He then placed them next to each other, with a gap of just 0.5 inches between their closest surfaces.

How large was the attractive force of gravity between these two balls?
Relevant Equations
F=G(mass1)(mass2)/(radius)^2
G=6.67 * 10 ^(-11)
Homework Statement: Henry Cavendish succeeded in measuring the value of the constant "G" way back in the late 1700s. His method was to put two known masses at a known distance and measure the attractive force between them; then he could use Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation to find "G".
The basic idea was to put a big sphere of a dense material next to a small sphere of dense material. Cavendish chose lead. He made one big ball with radius 5.6 inches, and one small ball with radius 1.9 inches. He then placed them next to each other, with a gap of just 0.5 inches between their closest surfaces.

How large was the attractive force of gravity between these two balls?
Homework Equations: F=G(mass1)(mass2)/(radius)^2
G=6.67 * 10 ^(-11)

total radius=((5.6in)+(1.9in)+(0.5in))(0.0254m) = 0.203m

(mass1)(9.8m/s^2)=(6.67 * 10 ^(-11) ) (mass1)(mass2)/( (5.6in)(0.0254 m) )^2
mass2=2.97 * 10^(9) kg

(mass2)(9.8m/s^2)=(6.67 * 10 ^(-11) ) (mass1)(mass2)/( (1.9in)(0.0254 m) )^2
mass1=342.2 * 10^(6) kg

F=(6.67 * 10 ^(-11) )(342.2 * 10^(6)) (2.97 * 10^(9)) / (0.203m)^2
F=1.645 * 10^(9) N
Apparently this incorrect. I don't know why.
 
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The problem is your determination of m1 and m2. Why are you using 9.8 m/sec^2? Show us your work in determining these masses.

AM
 
Do I need to find the mass of both objects? Can I somehow cancel them out of the equation?
 
ac7597 said:
Do I need to find the mass of both objects? Can I somehow cancel them out of the equation?

If force depends on the masses, then how could the masses cancel out?
 
The density of lead does not appear in your calculations anywhere. You appear to be determining the mass of the balls by assuming that the acceleration of each ball toward the other is 9.8 m/sec^2. That is not correct. You have the mass of a lead ball of radius 1.9 inches at 342 million kilograms!

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This the correct force=1.18 * 10^(-6) N ?
 
ac7597 said:
This the correct force=1.18 * 10^(-6) N ?
You should show us how you arrived at that answer.

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Your method is correct. If you use 11.34 g/cc for the density of lead the answer should work out to 1.18 e-6 N.

AM
 

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