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I desire to study physics at university and thus I am required to participate in work experience. The issue, however, is that I am ignorant to what work experience would be extremely valuable on a person application for studying physics. Any help would be very much appreciated.
 
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micromass said:
Why would you need work experience to study physics at university? Many students come straight from high school and never worked before.
What aspects make up an outstanding personal application for physics?
 
Einstein's Cat said:
What aspects make up an outstanding personal application for physics?
You do not need work experience to go to university for anything. I am studying physics at university currently. There is absolutely no job you could get before college that would be considered relevant to physics.

Are you referring to a work study requirement for your high school? If so, that requirement is to graduate your high school, and has nothing to do with any college's requirements, other than the requirement that you must finish high school.
 
PurelyPhysical said:
There is absolutely no job you could get before college that would be considered relevant to physics.

You don't think that a high school internship at a national lab would be worth anything? Are you sure that working at a university before graduation and being a co-author on a paper or two wouldn't help at all? I know several high school students who are in these positions... you cannot tell me that this will not help them with university admissions in any way.
 
Dishsoap said:
You don't think that a high school internship at a national lab would be worth anything? Are you sure that working at a university before graduation and being a co-author on a paper or two wouldn't help at all? I know several high school students who are in these positions... you cannot tell me that this will not help them with university admissions in any way.

I'm not the one that can benefit from this information. Sure, speaking in absolutes, there usually winds up being a contradiction, or untruth, in certain particular cases. Feel free to expound on those particular cases for Einstein's cat.
 
Do you mean that you are required to become an intern somewhere?
 
PurelyPhysical said:
I'm not the one that can benefit from this information. Sure, speaking in absolutes, there usually winds up being a contradiction, or untruth, in certain particular cases. Feel free to expound on those particular cases for Einstein's cat.

I'm not sure what kind of work is "required" for OP, as they haven't really stated what requirements need to be filled. Since the first thing that I mentioned is a summer job, and the second thing I mentioned is usually not considered a "full-time" job for work-study purposes, I'm not sure how useful that information would be.
 
justaman0000 said:
Do you mean that you are required to become an intern somewhere?
I would like to indeed, but where I am ignorant to
 
Einstein's Cat said:
I would like to indeed, but where I am ignorant to

But it is not REQUIRED. That's what we're all wondering.
 
Dishsoap said:
But it is not REQUIRED. That's what we're all wondering.
It is not required although any personal application would be better with it so what suggestions do you have?
 
Einstein's Cat said:
It is not required although any personal application would be better with it so what suggestions do you have?

Are you thinking summer internships? During the semester, you are probably limited to research at your own university for which funding can be limited. Do you need a job for money? If not, that's your best bet, otherwise you may have to get a job outside the field.

During the summer, apply for REUs (which is where you do research at another university), or lab internships (like the SULI program)... these are both (usually) 10-week programs that give research experience and, though competitive, pay quite well.
 
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Dishsoap said:
Are you thinking summer internships? During the semester, you are probably limited to research at your own university for which funding can be limited. Do you need a job for money? If not, that's your best bet, otherwise you may have to get a job outside the field.

During the summer, apply for REUs (which is where you do research at another university), or lab internships (like the SULI program)... these are both (usually) 10-week programs that give research experience and, though competitive, pay quite well.
Sorry for the confusion I cause but I am actually a high school student; what suggestions would you have for high school students who would want to study physics at university? Thank you
 
Einstein's Cat said:
Sorry for the confusion I cause but I am actually a high school student; what suggestions would you have for high school students who would want to study physics at university? Thank you

Sorry, I just assumed you were a senior.
High school physics internships are pretty hard to come by, but I know people who have done this one at Fermilab:
http://ed.fnal.gov/interns/programs/quarknet/index.shtml

Typically high school internship programs are somewhat limited to geographic areas... would you mind sharing what state you're in? Also, there are plenty of opportunities found online just by googling "high school physics internships". Did you not find one by doing this?
 
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Dishsoap said:
Sorry, I just assumed you were a senior.
High school physics internships are pretty hard to come by, but I know people who have done this one at Fermilab:
http://ed.fnal.gov/interns/programs/quarknet/index.shtml

Typically high school internship programs are somewhat limited to geographic areas... would you mind sharing what state you're in? Also, there are plenty of opportunities found online just by googling "high school physics internships". Did you not find one by doing this?
I am not from North America but Southern England and thank you for the advice.
 
If you need to build a resume to help you get into a college I also suggest taking some classes online at places like coursers or edx.org. You can pick and choose the subjects that you need and build a portfolio.
 
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Einstein's Cat said:
I am not from North America but Southern England and thank you for the advice.

Opportunities for students who are doing their A levels (I assume this is the level you are at?) are probably even more rare in England than in the US; and unless you know someone who e.g. works at a university and would let you shadow him/her for a few days you are very unlikely to find something.

There are places (including where I work) that offer students the chance to spend a few days in e.g. a research lab; but competition for these are fierce and you basically need to be very lucky. Moreover, I seriously doubt that this would matter at all for your university application. The purpose of these programs is mainly to get people interested in STEM, not to give students work experience. Moreover, H&S rules tend to mean that you are not actually allowed to do much actual work.

The good news is that this also most definitely means that work experience is not something that is required for a university application; at least not in the UK
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All of my work experience during g high school and undergrad was in restaurants or manual labor on construction sites. Working allows you to interact with adults who aren't your parents or teacher s. Plus you learn a lot about the real world and what hard work is. IMHO that's more important than an internship a normal high school kid is likely to get. But my experience was a long time ago and the world is a different place now.