What would be the fifth dimensional property of a Tesseract?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the fifth spatial dimension in relation to a tesseract, exploring concepts of higher dimensions, tunneling properties of particles, and the implications of time in the fourth dimension. Participants engage with theoretical frameworks, including Kaluza-Klein theory and its relationship to gravity and electromagnetism.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the physical properties of the fifth spatial dimension and its relation to tunneling properties of high-energy particles.
  • Others express uncertainty about whether the question pertains to the fourth spatial dimension or the temporal dimension.
  • A participant suggests that higher dimensions help explain forces as results of spacetime curvature, referencing Einstein's ideas.
  • Discussion includes Kaluza-Klein theory, which posits a compact fifth dimension and attempts to unify gravity and electromagnetism, but is critiqued for not accommodating quantum mechanics.
  • Some participants argue that Kaluza-Klein theory is a classical field theory that does not include quantized fields, leading to limitations in explaining all fundamental forces.
  • There is mention of the idea that gravity may "leak" into the fifth dimension, affecting its strength over distances.
  • One participant discusses the uniqueness of regular polytopes in higher dimensions and their mathematical implications.
  • Another participant expresses a desire for clarification on advanced mathematical concepts like automorphisms and isomorphisms related to permutation groups.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the properties of the fifth dimension or its implications for tunneling and other physical phenomena. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain throughout the discussion.

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Some claims depend on specific interpretations of higher-dimensional theories, and the discussion reflects a variety of assumptions about the nature of dimensions and their mathematical representations. The relationship between classical theories and quantum mechanics remains unresolved.

  • #31
I'm sorry. I can see the mathematics behind it, but I just can't buy that anything in this universe could physically be only one dimension, let alone two dimensions. I mean we live in a world that depends on 3-D...


BTW, anyone have any feedback on my +3 dimensional "visualization" idea?
 
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  • #32
Right now you have 3 dimension note that they are all part of the electromagnetic spectrum; are you prepared to accept that each force has its own spectrum?
 
  • #33
Originally posted by elas
Right now you have 3 dimension note that they are all part of the electromagnetic spectrum; are you prepared to accept that each force has its own spectrum?
I don't know!
I'll just be quiet now.
...wait. Maybe I understand this. By that do you mean that we perceive 3-dimensions because of light?
 
  • #34
I'm sorry. I can see the mathematics behind it, but I just can't buy that anything in this universe could physically be only one dimension, let alone two dimensions. I mean we live in a world that depends on 3-D...
The only reason we see 3-d is that we have two eyes, but if we had one wew would only see 2-d. Better yet, if we had three eyes we would probably see 4-d.
 
  • #35
But even if we had one eye, we could deduce through observation that a "2-d" object that we perceive to be as such, has length, width, and depth.
 
  • #36
But even if we had one eye, we could deduce through observation that a "2-d" object that we perceive to be as such, has length, width, and depth.
yes, that is where we get string theory.
 

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