What would happen in Planetary Collision?

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The discussion explores the hypothetical scenario of a collision between two large planetary masses, specifically focusing on the effects of magnetic forces during such an event and the feasibility of using thrusters to alter Earth's orbit. It encompasses theoretical considerations and speculative engineering solutions.

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  • One participant questions whether the repellent magnetic force would be negligible compared to the gravitational forces during a planetary collision.
  • Another participant asserts that the magnetic field would be negligible, comparing it to a strong magnet falling and noting no significant effects.
  • There is a discussion about the size and velocity of thrusters needed to move Earth from its orbit, with one participant suggesting that the required specifications depend on the desired change and available time.
  • One participant raises a concern about the effectiveness of thrusters within the atmosphere, suggesting that they might not provide any net gain due to opposing forces.
  • Another participant proposes that lifting thrusters above the atmosphere could be a solution, mentioning concepts like Space fountains or inflatable towers.
  • A humorous remark is made about the need to remove the atmosphere before using thrusters, indicating a playful approach to the discussion.
  • One participant expresses interest in the Space Fountain idea, indicating a positive reception to the proposed concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of magnetic forces during a planetary collision and the practicality of using thrusters within the atmosphere. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the effectiveness of these approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not reach consensus on the impact of magnetic forces or the feasibility of thruster designs, and assumptions regarding the scale of changes needed and the technology available are not fully explored.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring theoretical astrophysics, planetary science, and engineering concepts related to space travel and orbital mechanics.

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What would happen if two large planetary masses (such as our earth) collided by their poles (ie, north hits north)? Would the repellent magnetic force be negligible compared to the masses and gravity, or would the collision be altered or averted?
Also, while I am thinking about it, what size and velocity thrusters/engines and there required placement, would we need to move Earth from its orbit?
Thanks a lot.
 
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The magnetic field would be completely negligible. As a simple test, take a strong magnet and let it fall down. Do you note any effects of its magnetic field? Compared to a planetary magnetic field, the field strength in that magnet is of the order of 10 000 times stronger.

Also, while I am thinking about it, what size and velocity thrusters/engines and there required placement, would we need to move Earth from its orbit?
Depends on the size of change you want, and the available time. Close fly-bys by asteroids look more reasonable with (extrapolations of) current technology. In general, think big. The Earth has a mass of about 6000000000000000000000000kg...
 
On a related note, would using thrusters within the atmosphere even do anything? It seems like you'd be pushing the ground one way and the air the other way, leading to no gain unless you were pushing air out of the atmosphere somehow.
 
Drakkith said:
On a related note, would using thrusters within the atmosphere even do anything?
At a level where we use thrusters (reaching escape velocity!) to change the orbit of earth, lifting them above the atmosphere (with Space fountains, inflatable towers or just balloons) is probably not an issue :D. Alternatively, remove the atmosphere first.
 
mfb said:
Alternatively, remove the atmosphere first.

Dibs on the atmosphere. I have plans that require it...
 
Oh, thanks! And that Space Fountain Idea sounds pretty cool.
 

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