What would you do for science with 100 billions dollars?

[ExNihilo]

Hi,

You are a scientific committee and you have 100 billions dollars to do the researches you want. The only requirement is that the researches must not have any hidden agenda and must benefit human knowledge as much as possible.

What would be the program would you suggest? Would you be OK to spent all this money in the International Space Station?

Thanks in advance for any opinion.

 

[Pengwuino]

God no, the ISS isn't THAT important.

I'd invest all the money so that the dividends could produce constant amounts of funding forever :)

 

[mrspeedybob]

Research to find a cure for old age.

 

[f95toli]

I migtht be wrong here, but isn't 100 billion dollars roughly the amount of money the Federal government in the US spends on science every year (i.e. adding up all the money to NIH,DOE,NASA etc)?
My point being, it is a lot of money, but not as much as one might think (and it is only about 5 times the cost of building ITER) meaning I don't think spending that amount of money would automatically yield any amazing new results, it is probably what a manned mission to Mars would cost.

 

[Borek]

I migtht be wrong here, but isn't 100 billion dollars roughly the amount of money the Federal government in the US spends on science every year (i.e. adding up all the money to NIH,DOE,NASA etc)?
My point being, it is a lot of money, but not as much as one might think (and it is only about 5 times the cost of building ITER) meaning I don't think spending that amount of money would automatically yield any amazing new results, it is probably what a manned mission to Mars would cost.

There is a difference between spending 100 billions on everything and spending 100 billions on a specific problem.

Doesn't mean it would yield anything amazing, but definitely it could push us in some direction.

 

[leroyjenkens]

I'd strap a million rockets to the Earth facing the same direction and slow down the Earth's rotation.

 

[jim hardy]

Chromosome research to bio-engineer ethics into politicians and lawyers.

 

[Topher925]

I would invest it in engineering a virus that would make stupid people sterile.

 

[Hobin]

I'd throw it all at fusion. ITER, DEMO and PROTO can't go fast enough for me. It'll be 2038 (probably at best) before ITER gets finished! I'll be OLD then.

EDIT: I just saw it'll start doing D-T stuff in 2026, and the project *ends* in 2038. Still, that's, well, a freakin' long time.

 

[ExNihilo]

I rarely heard in science news that an important break through was achieved thanks to the ISS. On the other side, there are full of science projects who are searching desperately for funds: Asteriod alert, material research for solar panel, biology, etc.

Then I think of the $100 billions of the Space Station which could be used for la LOTS of other projects. Although I love cosmology, but think of the ISS as an very expensive toy.

 

[Antiphon]

I'd invest it all in a definitive study that measured just how inefficient it is to invest government money in science.

 

[feathermoon]

Alternative energy sources.

 

[wuliheron]

An international effort to develop the first full fledged quantum computer. Unfortunately its one of those developments more likely to be done first by governments in secret when the knowledge gained could easily benefit all of mankind immeasurably. Like the atom bomb I'd rather the decision when to disseminate any knowledge gained were made by at least all the allies collectively rather it possibly becoming the source of some new arms race between superpowers.

 

[jobyts]

I would start my own version of Nobel prize with the dividend I earn. That way I could make the smartest brains attracted to science, instead of becoming, say hedge fund managers.

 

[Pythagorean]

Yeah, I'd use it to fund STEM education in the US, starting early.

 

[feathermoon]

A massive PR campaign to foment positive public opinion about scientists, until scientists became governors and presidents (instead of lawyers doing so), and then enjoy the public funding and science backed law making that follows.

 

[wukunlin]

If you are thinking about using all that money for science you would be unlikely to ever acquire that much money :P

 

[Alex_Sanders]

Hi,

You are a scientific committee and you have 100 billions dollars to do the researches you want. The only requirement is that the researches must not have any hidden agenda and must benefit human knowledge as much as possible.

What would be the program would you suggest? Would you be OK to spent all this money in the International Space Station?

Thanks in advance for any opinion.

I'm going to say something naughty but I'm scared to death of fractions, so the serious answer: an AI laboratory.

 

[dipole]

I'd form the next Bell Labs.

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

I would fund a study of whether too much luxury ruins a person's life. For ethical reasons, I cannot ask anyone else to be a guinea pig for this research.

 

[wuliheron]

I would fund a study of whether too much luxury ruins a person's life. For ethical reasons, I cannot ask anyone else to be a guinea pig for this research.

Your personal sacrifice in the name of science will go down in history.

 

[rootX]

There is a difference between spending 100 billions on everything and spending 100 billions on a specific problem.

Doesn't mean it would yield anything amazing, but definitely it could push us in some direction.

OP did not specify the time range. I believe most problems have received more than 100 billion dollars over last century.

 

[ThomasT]

Hi,

You are a scientific committee and you have 100 billions dollars to do the researches you want. The only requirement is that the researches must not have any hidden agenda and must benefit human knowledge as much as possible.

What would be the program would you suggest? Would you be OK to spent all this money in the International Space Station?

Thanks in advance for any opinion.

100 billion dollars? Well, I'd try to ascertain the 10,000 most promising PHd scientists and give each of them 10 million dollars to pursue their pet projects ... with options for more money if they seem to on to something.

Or some variation on that.

 

[f95toli]

There is a difference between spending 100 billions on everything and spending 100 billions on a specific problem.

Doesn't mean it would yield anything amazing, but definitely it could push us in some direction.

I am note sure I agree. There already examples of research areas with "too much money, but not enough ideas" (e.g.weapons research, and some cancer research).
You quite quickly reach a point where spending more money on a subject becomes counter-productive; which is why so many "flagship" projects fail (e.g. the amount of money being spent on graphene in the UK at the moment, there is TOO much money around).
It is IMHO much better to spend money on many different projects in many different areas. This is more likely to yield good results.

 

[DragonPetter]

I would definitely colonize the moon or mars.

edit:

I'd like to see a sustainable underwater city for example.

I'd also like fund the effort to maximimize nuclear fuel efficiency and a way to economically send all nuclear waste to the sun with enough safety that it could be a reality.

I'd also invest in recycling processes so that we can recycle things that remain unrecyclable now (either technically or by human motivation), and then find a similar way of sending all unrecyclable waste to the sun.

 

[ErolDynamics]

I am note sure I agree. There already examples of research areas with "too much money, but not enough ideas" (e.g.weapons research, and some cancer research).
You quite quickly reach a point where spending more money on a subject becomes counter-productive; which is why so many "flagship" projects fail (e.g. the amount of money being spent on graphene in the UK at the moment, there is TOO much money around).
It is IMHO much better to spend money on many different projects in many different areas. This is more likely to yield good results.

I totally agree! I am also in graphene business, in order to exfoliate graphene mechanically we generally take 3 million$ fund. I still do no understand why... Maybe the cost of SiO is much :D.

Anyway; If I have possessed those amount of money, I would have found EROL Dynamics and Advanced Robotic Systems and had a special laboratory under my mension at Malibu like Tony Stark :D

 

[rkcompton]

Chromosome research to bio-engineer ethics into politicians and lawyers.

HAHAHA! is that even possible?

 

[wuliheron]

HAHAHA! is that even possible?

Funding the research is not an issue, it's actually implementing the results.

 

[D H]

If you are thinking about using all that money for science you would be unlikely to ever acquire that much money :P

Alfred Nobel (died 1896) did. So did John D. MacArthur (died 1978), and now apparently Bill Gates (still kickin') is following their footsteps.

The thing to do with such a huge pile of money is to endow a foundation such as the Nobel Foundation or the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation. Spend it all at once and the most likely outcome is that you will fund things such as Jimmy Snyder's study of whether too much luxury ruins a person's life, or Jack Crackpot's study of perpetual motion. Spend a few billion per year and the foundation can keep on giving awards perpetually, with the award growing to keep up with inflation.

 

[Ryan_m_b]

I'd split the fund into various sectors with 10 billion in:

• Regenerative medicine
• Artificial photosynthesis
• Eco-city R&D
• Industrial robotics
• Economics

Each 10 billion would be split into 10x 1 billion which in turn would be split into larger and smaller grants of all sizes e.g.

• One 100,000,000
• Four 25,000,000
• ...

to be awarded over the course of 5 years.

When it comes to distributing the next 1 billion progress in the various fields over the last 5 years can be looked at and the best choices for development invested in. Hopefully this means that by the time the 10 billion is spent significant, constant progress will have been made over a 50 year period

The other 50 billion will be spent in a similar manner but focused entirely on worldwide public science education and communication between the scientific community and everyone else. The "dream" here would to give every scientist the training and tools needed to understand the importance and means of communicating science to the public. The flip side of this is that the public will be far more aware of how science works, what is currently going on and how to spot pseudo-science.

That at least is my naive fantasy.

EDIT: I'd like to lop 10 billion off of communication and add a 6th 10 billion category to fund things like this http://opensourceecology.org/ The idea of supplying a few materials and tools to a small community and giving them access to a database that allows them to build a sophisticated, self-sufficient industrial base is a fantastic one. A great way to tackle global poverty at a local level.

 

[Tosh5457]

I would start my own version of Nobel prize with the dividend I earn. That way I could make the smartest brains attracted to science, instead of becoming, say hedge fund managers.

Bah, I think Nobel Prizes don't motivate anyone to do science. Who studies and works so much and for so many years on a specific area just to get a prize? It's just a way to exclude scientists, since for every scientist who gets a prize, maybe there are other 100 who equally deserved it.

 

[Containment]

Math! With that much money do you even realize how many more digits of Pi we could know? Can you even imagine!

No actually I would put it into computer science especially in the area of computer graphics. Think of how much better video games would be!

 

[dlgoff]

Hi,

You are a scientific committee and you have 100 billions dollars to do the researches you want. The only requirement is that the researches must not have any hidden agenda and must benefit human knowledge as much as possible.

10⁶$ to Physics Forums to start.

 

[Monique]

100 billion?

Paul Allen founded the Allen Brain institute with 100 million and recently invested another 300 million. I like that idea, the billions can be used to support the institute over the years and give special grants to people with good ideas.

 

[epenguin]

I have no fixed viewpoint on this. Am sceptical on crash programmes. Does anyone remember President Nixon's crash programme on cancer? What did that achieve?

What faith is there in the national and international fusion programmes? Is anything that complicated to start ever going to be simple enough to keep working?

Or another example the EU's considerable research spending. There is a new Programme with a new philosophy every 4 years, every new Commissioner responsible has to make his name by changing it, but 4 years is of the order of the time to get tooled up for new research directions often. And I know that the closer you get to it the shorter some of the relaxation times become, and know of windows of opportunity that were open for days only, small ones even hours.

So I tend to think this idea of a crash programme is just feeding the vanity or other vices of politicians who are irked, bored and find hard to justify the permanent constant funding of science. Maybe scientists could achieve more if left to get on with their job with some constant security instead of spending their lives writing grant proposals and being valued according to their skill at this? OK then OTOH they do have to respond to society's needs, accountability blah blah.

I an also sceptical of the ideology of centres of Excellence, prizes and the accompanying hero-worship. I wonder if Science doesn't very much need a humus of mediocrity, or at least a plethora of unfashionable small-scale research on obscure bugs, metabolic pathways, families of chemicals and natural products and what have you.

But I am not decided and will put an opposite argument in another post.