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Moon Bee
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What will you do if you suddenly become homeless ?
I don't know.
I don't know.
What Would You Do If You Became Homeless Tomorrow?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of suddenly becoming homeless, exploring various personal responses, strategies for finding shelter and employment, and the emotional and practical implications of such a situation. Participants share their thoughts on the circumstances leading to homelessness, potential immediate actions, and longer-term strategies for recovery.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
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Main Points Raised
- Some participants question the notion of becoming homeless "suddenly," suggesting that there are usually warning signs or gradual processes involved.
- Several contributions emphasize the importance of finding the cheapest available rental unit or temporary shelter, such as a hotel or a friend's couch, in an emergency situation.
- There are suggestions to seek immediate employment, regardless of the job type, with an emphasis on reliability and effectiveness.
- One participant shares personal experiences and strategies for navigating homelessness in the United States, including the importance of maintaining communication with friends and family for support.
- Concerns are raised about the challenges faced by those newly homeless due to natural disasters, including the loss of property and difficulties in finding new housing.
- Some participants express a belief that being homeless can be an opportunity to pursue passions or reassess life goals, while others focus on the practical steps needed to regain stability.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree on the need for immediate action in finding shelter and employment, but there are differing views on the nature of homelessness and the best strategies to cope with it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the emotional implications and personal experiences of homelessness.
Contextual Notes
Some responses reflect specific cultural contexts, such as differences in homelessness experiences between the United States and Japan, which may not be universally applicable. Additionally, there are references to local conditions and individual circumstances that influence the discussion.
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humanino
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When you say homeless, you mean if you loose successively : job, money, then home, I guess...
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Moon Bee said:
What do you mean if you "suddenly" become homeless? I can't imagine any circumstances when this would be a sudden process, and not one that I could see coming.
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Moon Bee
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just the house,
less money and jobless due to family status disqualification.
less money and jobless due to family status disqualification.
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Moon Bee
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cristo said:
Actually it must have been last Saturday the owner asked him to leave, but he then didn't, waiting to this week. the owner said Thursday was due. Only some hours later, i guess hotel room would be the best place to sleep alone all night
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Moon Bee
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Even when there was no one renting the apartment, I should have known that the owner was the old bet-poi-shop member concerned.
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Homeless? Locate the cheapest available rental unit anywhere. Don't be fussy in an emergency.
Jobless? Locate the first available paying job that will have you, promise to be reliable and effective in order to get the job, then keep your word. Don't be fussy in an emergency.
(What's a bet-poi-shop?)
Jobless? Locate the first available paying job that will have you, promise to be reliable and effective in order to get the job, then keep your word. Don't be fussy in an emergency.
(What's a bet-poi-shop?)
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Moon Bee
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In his area as I know, even the cheapest place needs him to pay in advance 3 month rents, and status needs clearing, i.e who assumes the responsibility for his stay, stay for what etc.
His most important ID card was told by the another source that was fine but needed a renewal as soon as possible whereas his concerned owner and someothers want to delete it soon. He has a cable in his room to contact me daily but some hours later when house is returned, I don't know how or when we can be in touch again ? But it'll be simply free of burdens, won't it ?
Sorry I like jokes,
His most important ID card was told by the another source that was fine but needed a renewal as soon as possible whereas his concerned owner and someothers want to delete it soon. He has a cable in his room to contact me daily but some hours later when house is returned, I don't know how or when we can be in touch again ? But it'll be simply free of burdens, won't it ?
I don't know what it is either,
Sorry I like jokes,
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I forgot to mention another detail, that there exist another neighbor of his who threatened to call the embasy police if he disobeyed the concerned owners' requests. That kind of nice northenie in forties, darnie folkie!
He is too new and currently receiving pretty much financial support to build some Gothic houses in the local area. My friend understands why he sux. He said the owner was gentle, high levelled of courtesey, knowledgebale and more, he once complimented so bfore my friend, oh my that's nasty old bet-poi-shop
He is too new and currently receiving pretty much financial support to build some Gothic houses in the local area. My friend understands why he sux. He said the owner was gentle, high levelled of courtesey, knowledgebale and more, he once complimented so bfore my friend, oh my that's nasty old bet-poi-shop
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What location is this?
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Darnie folkie, northenie in forties and concerned drummers don't matter. Find a job and find a place to live. It's really simple. It's not necessarily easy, but it's simple nonetheless. Keep looking until you find. Talk to locals.
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If it were in the United States I might be able to help. I spent a few years on the road and know how that works. I have no idea at all how things work in Japan.
Here, if you have a few hundred dollars in your pocket you can move anywhere. You can't be picky though. Find a computer and look for a location that you might be able to find work easily. Try to set up a room at the cheapest motel you can find. This way you are paying by the week and not 2 months rent up front. This is only a temporary situation until you get the job. If you have a friend in the area you can beg and plead to stay with them for one month until you can save some money. If you are very lucky a friend may even be able to hook you up with a job.
If you can, bring a cell phone. Don't purchase a plan if you don't already have one active. Just get some minutes for it. This will be useful for giving out a phone number to employers and you won't miss their calls if you are out of the motel. And you will be out quite a bit at this time.
Get a job, any job, get 2 jobs if you have to. Employment agencies are pretty good about finding some kind of labor work. If you have some marketable skills that is great, but you might have to wait on getting the job you want and you need a job right away. It's only temporay.
Don't eat out. In motels without kitchens I would cook on a portable stove. I used to have one in my dorm room also. Eating at restaurants is tempting at this point but it's just too expensive. Save every penny. Pay back your friends for any food/rent/loan expenses right away.
When you have a simple roof over your head and have some money coming in look for the job that you would actually like. Be quick about it because motels are more expensive per month than most apartments. This will eat into the money you are saving. Getting the job you want is important to do before getting an apartment because you should know how much money you are making so you know how much you can afford for a place to more permanently live.
After you get the job you like, look for a better place to live. Find something to rent in the price range of about 1/4 to 1/3 of your monthly salary. Anything more than that and you won't be able to save much money.
Keep in touch with your friends and family on at least a weekly basis. They will help with any feelings of frustration or loneliness you might have. Try to stay positive. If you can build yourself up from nothing then you don't have to be afraid of having nothing. Consider it a challenge for you to overcome and when you see success tell your friends about your accomplishments. The situation is rarely as dire as we fear it might be.
I don't know how things are in Japan, but here anyone willing and able to work can stand on their own two feet. (hmm, did I use too many euphemisms. I hope everything i suggest makes sense to someone from Japan.)
Here, if you have a few hundred dollars in your pocket you can move anywhere. You can't be picky though. Find a computer and look for a location that you might be able to find work easily. Try to set up a room at the cheapest motel you can find. This way you are paying by the week and not 2 months rent up front. This is only a temporary situation until you get the job. If you have a friend in the area you can beg and plead to stay with them for one month until you can save some money. If you are very lucky a friend may even be able to hook you up with a job.
If you can, bring a cell phone. Don't purchase a plan if you don't already have one active. Just get some minutes for it. This will be useful for giving out a phone number to employers and you won't miss their calls if you are out of the motel. And you will be out quite a bit at this time.
Get a job, any job, get 2 jobs if you have to. Employment agencies are pretty good about finding some kind of labor work. If you have some marketable skills that is great, but you might have to wait on getting the job you want and you need a job right away. It's only temporay.
Don't eat out. In motels without kitchens I would cook on a portable stove. I used to have one in my dorm room also. Eating at restaurants is tempting at this point but it's just too expensive. Save every penny. Pay back your friends for any food/rent/loan expenses right away.
When you have a simple roof over your head and have some money coming in look for the job that you would actually like. Be quick about it because motels are more expensive per month than most apartments. This will eat into the money you are saving. Getting the job you want is important to do before getting an apartment because you should know how much money you are making so you know how much you can afford for a place to more permanently live.
After you get the job you like, look for a better place to live. Find something to rent in the price range of about 1/4 to 1/3 of your monthly salary. Anything more than that and you won't be able to save much money.
Keep in touch with your friends and family on at least a weekly basis. They will help with any feelings of frustration or loneliness you might have. Try to stay positive. If you can build yourself up from nothing then you don't have to be afraid of having nothing. Consider it a challenge for you to overcome and when you see success tell your friends about your accomplishments. The situation is rarely as dire as we fear it might be.
I don't know how things are in Japan, but here anyone willing and able to work can stand on their own two feet. (hmm, did I use too many euphemisms. I hope everything i suggest makes sense to someone from Japan.)
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I wouldn't do anything. Now I have an excuse to get paid doing what I love. 
Seriously though, I would follow out_of_whacks ideas. It's an emergency so don't be picky. I see ssssssssooooooooo many picky unemployed people when wanted signs are everywhere. I see this on TV all the time about people complaining about not being able to get a job when the camera crew steps out of the studio and atleast 1 wanted sign is visible. Sad. Basically a blind person chasing the American Dream.
Seriously though, I would follow out_of_whacks ideas. It's an emergency so don't be picky. I see ssssssssooooooooo many picky unemployed people when wanted signs are everywhere. I see this on TV all the time about people complaining about not being able to get a job when the camera crew steps out of the studio and atleast 1 wanted sign is visible. Sad. Basically a blind person chasing the American Dream.
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No, it's ok I just heard from him that he could stay in a hotel before moving to another area
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On Sunday/Monday, we had some significant flooding in our area and several communities were evacuated, and the home owners would stay in a hotel or with friends or relatives. Locally a trailer park(mobile homes) was flooded and some of the trailers (homes) have been condemned and the owner/tenants have no home. Apparently the Red Cross is assisting the newly homeless with finding shelter, but since much of their property (and possibly records) has been destroyed, they might have difficulting finding new homes. 
For me being homeless (with wife and children) would be difficult at first, but I'd quickly find a new place - probably a cheap apartment - until I could sort out the finances.
If it was myself - I'd sleep in a tent or go the YMCA or similar shelter. There are local shelters for homeless people.
For me being homeless (with wife and children) would be difficult at first, but I'd quickly find a new place - probably a cheap apartment - until I could sort out the finances.
If it was myself - I'd sleep in a tent or go the YMCA or similar shelter. There are local shelters for homeless people.
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I agree with the other replies here...don't be picky! Get the cheapest roof over your head you can find, be it a cheap hotel, a friend's couch, or a mattress on the floor of a cheap apartment shared with 3 other roommates. The important thing is to be in a place with an address so you can list your address on job applications. Second, take the first job you can find, be it working in a fast food restaurant, or picking up trash and debris on a construction site, there's always a job for someone willing to work. Live frugally. As Huck suggested, a single burner hotplate and a pot are all you need...canned soup is pretty cheap, as are sandwiches, rice, noodles, oatmeal (not the packaged instant kind, but the whole rolled oats you cook on the stove), etc. Beyond that, you'll need a can opener and a spoon and one lamp (or just go to sleep when it gets dark so you can get up early to work, or keep looking for work), and a reliable alarm clock so you're never late for work.
As for me, I always keep at least 6 months worth of rent/house payments in my savings at all times (i.e., I never spend beyond that), so even if I was suddenly unemployed for some reason, I could continue paying for my housing until I had time to find something else. That's the best way to approach it...only live where you can save money while you're employed so you can build up savings in case you are suddenly unemployed or injured and unable to work (assuming you don't have disability insurance to help in those cases).
As for me, I always keep at least 6 months worth of rent/house payments in my savings at all times (i.e., I never spend beyond that), so even if I was suddenly unemployed for some reason, I could continue paying for my housing until I had time to find something else. That's the best way to approach it...only live where you can save money while you're employed so you can build up savings in case you are suddenly unemployed or injured and unable to work (assuming you don't have disability insurance to help in those cases).
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Moon Bee
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That''s a neat plan, I would tell him about this. and I am sure he would be very grateful.
Seriously, the story was made up so much far from realities by them
After Saturday, he thought some magic might turn him from 13 to be 30 today, but he was really sad, frustrated and me too...
Seriously, the story was made up so much far from realities by them
After Saturday, he thought some magic might turn him from 13 to be 30 today, but he was really sad, frustrated and me too...
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