What's a good way to integrate nursing into physics?

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The discussion revolves around the potential integration of nursing and physics as career paths. Participants explore the implications of pursuing a nursing degree alongside an interest in physics, considering the stability and opportunities nursing may provide versus the desire for a deeper engagement with physics. The conversation touches on personal experiences, motivations, and the competitive nature of nursing programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a desire to balance nursing and physics, questioning whether a nursing degree could supplement a physics major or vice versa.
  • One participant suggests that a nursing degree may not significantly benefit a physics career, proposing that if the goal is physics, one should focus on obtaining a physics degree directly.
  • Concerns are raised about the competitive nature of nursing programs and the necessity of having a genuine interest in nursing to succeed in the field.
  • Participants discuss the importance of gaining experience in patient care to determine if nursing is a suitable path, with suggestions to pursue EMT certification as a way to explore this interest.
  • A participant shares a friend's perspective, emphasizing that nursing should be a passion rather than a fallback option, as the field can be demanding and may not suit those without a strong commitment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether nursing and physics can be effectively combined. There are competing views on the merits of pursuing nursing versus focusing solely on physics, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward.

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Limitations include the lack of personal experience in nursing or physics among some participants, which may affect their perspectives. Additionally, the discussion does not resolve the complexities of integrating these two fields or the specific career outcomes associated with each path.

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Individuals considering a career in nursing or physics, especially those weighing the benefits and challenges of pursuing both fields simultaneously.

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Hi all. I'm having trouble deciding what I want to do first. I know I can become an RN in two years, which would give me solid opportunity to help people and a laundry list of jobs I would be qualified for... This would give me good stability while I continue to do my schooling, and I imagine I'd like nursing, working with people, etc.

But I really like physics and I know that an associate's or bachelor's just isn't going to cut it for me.. I know I can always go back to school after becoming an RN, but waiting until I'm 26 or 27 to begin a major in physics seems like a really big stretch. Does a nursing degree supplement a physics major in any way or vice cersa? Has anyone heard of people combining these two to get the best out of both? Any tips or ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
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ccmetalhead said:
Hi all. I'm having trouble deciding what I want to do first. I know I can become an RN in two years, which would give me solid opportunity to help people and a laundry list of jobs I would be qualified for... This would give me good stability while I continue to do my schooling, and I imagine I'd like nursing, working with people, etc.

But I really like physics and I know that an associate's or bachelor's just isn't going to cut it for me.. I know I can always go back to school after becoming an RN, but waiting until I'm 26 or 27 to begin a major in physics seems like a really big stretch. Does a nursing degree supplement a physics major in any way or vice cersa? Has anyone heard of people combining these two to get the best out of both? Any tips or ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!

Does a nursing degree supplement a physics degree? Probabaly not. At best you could skip some GES during physics degree after obtaining a nursing degree.

I don't see the advantage of doing it that way though. If the end goal is physics, get a physics degree. During grad school you'll probabaly make about 1/2 to 2/3 of what an entry level RN would make anyway.
 
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ccmetalhead said:
I know I can become an RN in two years
What is your medical background so far? Are you pretty sure you could get accepted into an RN program? They are very competitive in most places (in the US) that I'm familiar with.

Do you have much experience working or volunteering in a hospital or clinical environment? How about in the pre-hospital (EMS) environment? How do you feel about patient contacts? Is it something you really enjoy, or just put up with?

Also, have you looked at the field of Medical Physics? There are certainly a number of jobs that cross over between medicine and physics (and EE). Once you tell us more about your medical background, perhaps @Choppy could add some comments. :smile:
 
Wow, now that you ask those questions @berkeman, I honestly have no experience with anything you mentioned. I'm not sure why I have the sudden urge to look into nursing. Maybe it's because there are so many different specializations to choose from and it just seems like a good option. My medical background is pretty much non-existent. Heck, my physics background is non-existent, I'm just really interested in it...

I've been taking pre-req's at my local state community college system and I really haven't taken any specialty classes yet, only a refresher math course, public speaking and English. I'm 24 and I don't know if that should have any bearing on what I want to study or not, but for years now I've genuinely wanted to be involved in a science field, and I always come back around to physics.

I'm glad I'm talking about this now. Seeing my thoughts on the screen allows me to get an idea of what's going on in my own head, lol.
 
ccmetalhead,

Do you want to find a CAREER dealing with frustrated, confused, sick, slow, or injured people, who may or may be unable to communicate intelligibly? If yes, then nursing could be a career for you. Do you feel the desire to clean a heavy person who has trouble moving and cannot walk, who has feces and urine around the lower torso and legs, who also cannot speak and seems very very slow in the head? Great! Nursing could be for you. Some people WANT to do this work, and the world needs them.

If you want a physical science (or maybe an engineering) career, then bulk-up with the Mathematics, and try some intro or elementary Physics course or two. Physical sciences might be to your liking, but knowing requires some study and self-evaluation.
 
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o you want to find a CAREER dealing with frustrated, confused, sick, slow, or injured people, who may or may be unable to communicate intelligibly? If yes, then nursing could be a career for you. Do you feel the desire to clean a heavy person who has trouble moving and cannot walk, who has feces and urine around the lower torso and legs, who also cannot speak and seems very very slow in the head? Great! Nursing could be for you. Some people WANT to do this work, and the world needs them.
You're focusing on the more difficult things medical folks deal with, but don't forget the many positive things. A career in a medical field can be very rewarding emotionally.

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Wow, now that you ask those questions @berkeman, I honestly have no experience with anything you mentioned.
Yeah, I recommend that anybody who is considering a career as a doctor or nurse get some experience with patient contacts for a while, to see how you like the contacts. I started working part-time shifts in EMS nine years ago, and I've found that I really enjoy the patient contacts. Even with the difficult patients and even with the very badly injured patients, I feel good being able to use my skills and experience to help them out. If I'd known that I enjoy patient contacts this much back when I was in undergrad, I probably would have gone into medicine. :smile:

But for some people who start to work with patients, they find that they do not enjoy the patient contacts for whatever reasons, and it's definitely best to find that out early, and not part-way through medical school as you start your clinicals (or part-way through an RN program). You could look into getting your EMT certification while you are going to the community college (many community colleges have EMT programs), and maybe working or volunteering as an EMT for a few months part-time to see how you like it. It may turn out that you really enjoy it, in which case you could move on to an RN program. It could also turn out that you do not like it much, so that would let you know that going the RN route probably is not a good idea.

Best of luck! :smile:
 
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Here is what my friend says, we happened to be talking when I saw this, she's an RN:

Please tell them NOT to become a nurse unless that's what they want. For one, its not fair to their fellow nurses or their patients. Its a tough field and you have to love it and if its not your passion it truly shows. Secondly, its a tough field and if you don't love it will chew you up and spit you out. It does that to everyone, its the love of it that keeps you fighting through. The last thing we need is another nurse who really wants to do something else. And physics and nursing are not really related.

She was also telling me RN programs are really competitive. I'm in my 30s and just starting my physics journey, if that's what you want then that's what you should do.
 
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LeftMyHeartInErebor said:
Here is what my friend says, we happened to be talking when I saw this, she's an RN:

Please tell them NOT to become a nurse unless that's what they want. For one, its not fair to their fellow nurses or their patients. Its a tough field and you have to love it and if its not your passion it truly shows. Secondly, its a tough field and if you don't love it will chew you up and spit you out. It does that to everyone, its the love of it that keeps you fighting through. The last thing we need is another nurse who really wants to do something else. And physics and nursing are not really related.

She was also telling me RN programs are really competitive. I'm in my 30s and just starting my physics journey, if that's what you want then that's what you should do.
Please tell her thanks for the great advice. :smile:
 
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Great, everyone thanks so much for your input. I will do a lot of milling it over throughout my next couple of semesters. I also think that if I really want to do physics, I'll find out when I start taking the harder classes.
 
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HI I am Sam, a registered nurse and now I have decided to learn and go to a medical physics career pathway. I have Bachelor's degree in nursing, now I am moving into bachelor medical physics. I am very excited. Please let to how you are going.
 
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I believe you should look into medical physics specializing in radiation therapy. While you will not be doing any nursing activities you will have direct patient contact and the reward of knowing that you are significantly contributing to their treatment. Nursing training would be of little or no practical value.
 
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