What's Driving the High Cost of Homes in Major Cities?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the factors driving high housing costs in major cities, exploring various economic, regulatory, and social influences. Participants examine the roles of government regulation, supply and demand dynamics, population changes, and speculative behavior in the housing market.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that government regulation significantly increases housing prices, citing research that suggests regulations may inadvertently raise prices by substantial amounts.
  • Others propose that supply and demand dynamics play a crucial role, with the belief that converting green spaces to housing would not necessarily lead to lower prices.
  • Several participants note that in certain areas, new housing is being built, but prices remain high due to builders' unwillingness to construct lower-cost homes and the influx of buyers from more expensive regions.
  • Some contributors mention the impact of cheap credit and speculative behavior in the housing market, linking these factors to past financial crises and ongoing price increases.
  • There are observations about regional differences, with some areas experiencing lower housing prices despite broader trends in major cities.
  • Speculation on real estate values and the optimism of home-buyers are discussed as contributing factors to rising prices, alongside the effects of tax incentives related to mortgage interest deductions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus on the primary drivers of high housing costs. While some agree on the impact of regulation, others challenge this perspective, suggesting alternative explanations such as market dynamics and regional variations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying regional housing markets, differing definitions of affordability, and the influence of external economic factors that may not be uniformly applicable across all areas discussed.

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chroot said:
I continually explained that to make a house profitable, you have to be able to get 6-8% appreciation per year, just to cover the tax, interest, and maintenance expenses.

The one point they do have is that you can count doing away with any rent you might pay as an alternative on the plus side of the balance sheet along with the appreciation. But you're definitely right that that frequently still is not enough to offset the many costs.
 

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