What's the formula for finding the shortest distance between two points in 3D?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the shortest distance between two points in 3D space, specifically using their xyz coordinates. Participants explore various methods, including geometric reasoning and established formulas, while sharing personal experiences and insights related to the topic.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe using geometric reasoning, specifically Pythagoras' theorem, to conceptualize the distance between two points in 3D.
  • Others mention that the distance formula provides the actual size between the two points in three dimensions.
  • A participant suggests that the application of Pythagorean's theorem is a common method for finding this distance.
  • One participant introduces the term "Euclidean distance" or "Euclidean metric" as a formal name for the distance calculation.
  • Another participant proposes a variational approach as a potentially clearer conceptual method for determining the shortest path between points.
  • There is a suggestion to explore the formula for distances in higher dimensions, such as 4D or n dimensions.
  • One participant shares their experience of deriving the distance formula for the xy plane and expresses interest in extending this to 3D and beyond.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

While there is a general agreement on the application of Pythagorean's theorem for finding distances, multiple competing views exist regarding the methods and concepts involved, such as the variational approach and the formal naming of the distance formula. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best or most comprehensive method.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the topic, and some mention attempts to derive formulas independently, indicating a mix of confidence and uncertainty in their understanding. There are references to external resources for further exploration of the concepts discussed.

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Hi,

Given the question of finding the shortest distance between two points in 3D (xyz coordinates for each point), I was able to find the distance by basically imagining the given points as the vertices of a right triangle. Really easy problem to you guys but it was like a new thing to me and I used only my geometry knowledge instead of using a formula I did not know.

So basically I am just happy that I did this.
 
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Without trying to work through the description myself, the distance formula would at least give the actual size between the two points in three dimensions.
 
Patrick Kale said:
Hi,

Given the question of finding the shortest distance between two points in 3D (xyz coordinates for each point), I was able to find the distance by basically imagining the given points as the vertices of a right triangle. Really easy problem to you guys but it was like a new thing to me and I used only my geometry knowledge instead of using a formula I did not know.

So basically I am just happy that I did this.

I'd call it an application of Pythagoras' theorem.
 
Isn't this pretty much the only way of finding the distance between two points in 3D? Normally you would just use an extension of pythagorean's theorem.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. Application of Pythagorean's theorem is the consensus. I will do another attempt to find the distance formula for two xyz 3d points myself. I saw the formula after answering the first question then tried one time to make it myself but did not succeed.
 
Hi Patrick,

Good job on figuring this out for yourself. A lot of the mathematicians here will tell you that trying to figure things like this out on your own is a great way to learn.

I encourage you to keep at it.
 
tahayassen said:
Isn't this pretty much the only way of finding the distance between two points in 3D? Normally you would just use an extension of pythagorean's theorem.
You can also do it using a variational approach which I think is conceptually more clear since it specifically selects the path with the smallest length from all possible paths.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distance#Variational_formulation_of_distance
 
Patrick Kale said:
Thanks for the replies guys. Application of Pythagorean's theorem is the consensus. I will do another attempt to find the distance formula for two xyz 3d points myself. I saw the formula after answering the first question then tried one time to make it myself but did not succeed.

Very well done man!

So, you have the formula for the distance of two points in 1D, in 2D and in 3D. Can you guess what the formula for the distance is in 4D, 5D?? Or in general: in n dimensions??
 
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I produced the formula for the shortest distance between two points in the xy plane. It was a fun exercise. Here is a picture of the work I did:

http://postimage.org/image/b7tz5pvnp/full/

Users Diffy and micromass, thank you! User micromass, that seems like an interesting question. I will first do the attempt at the formula of distance between two points in the xyz plane and maybe I will be able to picture, or guess, an idea for the 4d and etc.
 
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