What's the Process for Publishing Scientific Papers?

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The discussion revolves around the process of publishing scientific papers, particularly focusing on platforms like arXiv.org and viXra.org. Participants explore the steps involved in publishing, the role of peer review, the costs associated with publication, and the credibility of different platforms. The conversation includes personal experiences and concerns from individuals unfamiliar with the academic publishing system.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about whether uploading to arXiv constitutes "publication" and clarify that it is generally not considered published in the traditional sense.
  • There is discussion about the necessity of submitting to a journal for formal publication, with some noting that peer review occurs at that stage, not upon uploading to arXiv.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the costs of publishing in reputable journals, with suggestions that universities or institutions often cover these expenses.
  • Participants debate the credibility of viXra.org, with some expressing skepticism about its reputation and the likelihood of papers being read if published there.
  • One participant shares their apprehension about navigating the academic publishing system and considers using viXra.org as a simpler alternative for sharing their research.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the credibility of viXra.org, with some advocating against its use while others consider it a viable option for self-publishing. The discussion reflects a mix of opinions on the complexities of the academic publishing process and the role of peer review.

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Participants highlight various assumptions about the publishing process, including the need for authorization to upload to arXiv, the implications of peer review, and the financial aspects of publication. There are also references to personal experiences that may not represent broader trends in academic publishing.

  • #61
Also journals are *terrible* for handling new and original ideas. If you have a new and original idea, then you want to share it with your friends over beer at a conference.
 
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weburbia said:
you underestimate how difficult that can be for someone with no academic affiliation. Publishing in high impact factor journals seems to be very difficult and possibly expensive for outsiders.
I have no academic affiliation and publish a half-dozen papers per year or so. The only difficulty is that people w/o academic affiliations rarely have anything of high enough quality to pass peer review. Those that do have high quality research and writing have no more difficulty getting published than their academic counterparts.

If an academic wrote a great paper and a non academic wrote a piece of junk and then they swapped papers and each submitted the other's paper then generally the academic's affiliation would not make the junk pass peer review and the non academic's lack of affiliation would not prevent the great paper from passing peer review.
 
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