What's your opinion? Your Popularity and Your Job.

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between job titles and popularity, exploring what professions might be perceived as "cool" or desirable in social contexts. Participants share their opinions on various careers and the implications of choosing a job based on its perceived popularity rather than personal interest or stability.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that choosing a career solely based on its popularity may lead to failure.
  • Others propose that running for political office could be a way to achieve maximum popularity.
  • A participant humorously notes that their job as a high school physics teacher is not perceived as popular.
  • Several contributions include humorous or exaggerated job titles, such as "rock star" or "male porn star," to illustrate the idea of perceived popularity.
  • One participant mentions a humorous anecdote about how a physicist adjusts their job title based on their desire for conversation during flights.
  • There are discussions about the perception of physicists and science teachers, with some questioning why physicists are considered boring.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the validity of measuring the difficulty of different professions.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of personal fulfillment over popularity in career choices.
  • Another participant highlights the disparity between science teachers and physicists, noting that many physics teachers do not have degrees in physics.

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The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the relationship between job titles and popularity. There is no consensus on whether popularity should be a factor in career choice or how different professions are perceived socially.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the importance of job titles and their implications for social interactions. Some comments reflect personal experiences and humor, while others delve into the educational background of physics teachers compared to physicists.

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Here's just a bit of a general question:

What job would you do, if you wanted to get as popular as possible?

I mean, what would sound better: 'Hi, I'm an astronautical engineer' , or, 'Hi, I'm conductiong research in the field of biogenetics'

I hope you get the general idea of the question- you know, 'what sounds coolest?'. If you could just give your opinions about this kind of thing.

Its quite braod thing- just post your comments and opinions.

Oh, and please answer the poll too.
 
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If you go into a career because it "sounds the coolest" you are bound to fail!
 
If wanted to be as popular as possible, I would run for political office.
 
You should see people shrink away from me when I tell them I am a "high school physics teacher." Apparently "not popular."
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Maybe I shouldn't yell it.
 
Chi Meson said:
You should see people shrink away from me when I tell them I am a "high school physics teacher." Apparently "not popular."
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Maybe I shouldn't yell it.

An astrophysicist once told me that, on planes, he responds to the question, "So, what do you do?" with:

"I'm a physicist." if he doesn't want to be disturbed;

"I'm an astronomer." if he feels like chatting.
 
I'm a software engineer, but I tell people I'm a famous movie star.
 
Rock Star.
 
Male porn star

Remarkably, this works regardless of your actual gender
 
An incredibly well-endowed aristocrat. I leave it up to you to determine what I mean by well-endowed
 
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Pimp.
 
  • #11
You could always release a poor quality sex tape. That seems to help for getting popularity.
 
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George Jones said:
"I'm a physicist." if he doesn't want to be disturbed;

"I'm an astronomer." if he feels like chatting.

What was his/her name? My astronomy prof had a similar saying for when people talked to him on a plane. He said:

"If you don't want to talk to them, say you're a physicist"
"If you REALLY don't want to talk to them, say you're a nuclear physicist"
"If you REALLY REALLY don't want to talk to them, say you're an ATOMIC physicist"
 
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Since when do people find physicists boring??:confused:
 
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Stratosphere said:
Since when do people find physicists boring??:confused:

Ever since physics gained acceptance over religion among intellectuals.
 
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I finally landed that tough job of being retired and spending my kids inheritance.:smile:
 
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Perhaps a related graph.

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Pupil said:
Perhaps a related graph.

Lesson5.jpg

Nice chart but I wouldn't agree with the part that say skill required. You can't measure the difficulty of professions different things are easier for some people than others. I would doubt that Einstein was able to act or play and write music like other people.
 
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Stratosphere said:
Nice chart but I wouldn't agree with the part that say skill required. You can't measure the difficulty of professions different things are easier for some people than others. I would doubt that Einstein was able to act or play and write music like other people.

Awesome sense of humor.
 
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X Celebrity's therapist = popularity + strictly personal information.

I'm responsible for 99% of celebrity rumors.
 
  • #20
modulus said:
What's your opinion? Your Popularity and Your Job.

I prefer stability [don't want to work with different (competitive) people each year] and challenge [so don't want a boring stable job] more than popularity/money.
 
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Stratosphere said:
Nice chart but I wouldn't agree with the part that say skill required. You can't measure the difficulty of professions different things are easier for some people than others. I would doubt that Einstein was able to act or play and write music like other people.
You may want to know that Einstein was a very good violin player. Seriously. And BTW, this is a log-log plot
 
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stratosphere said:
since when do people find physi...SNOOOOOOORRRE...
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  • #23
Honestly, I think it's all in the presentation. Like that math prof from 'Good Will Hunting'. I totally believed that that could be a math prof and I totally believed that that guy could get layed.
 
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I prefer a snarky cheese spread on my morning bagel. It makes the day more lively, at least for the five minutes it takes to eat it.

To achieve ultimate popularity one must produce a physics sex tape full of endorphin inspired theories and Einstein bedhead.

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The real reason for Einstein's popularity
That's one sexy beast!​
 
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God, you guys really know how to make a good joke. The picture was funny, pupil.

Let me give you guys a few more things that might sound interesting: biogenetical engineer, botanic researcher, robotech engineer.

Think of more awesome jobs... which one's the coolest??

Whoever that astrophycisist was that you met, Geoge Jones, he had a good sense of humor. Quite surprising, beause, every science teacher we've had in our school always seemed to be very depressed, and, cosmology is crazily tough, as far as I have heard.

P.S.- I was going to post a poll which had a lot more interesting jobs, like, music composer, animator,etc., but I it told me that I could not post a poll after more than 15 minutes after postong the original post, and , I got late.

Could you please reduce the vulgarity... when I posted this, I was actually kind of serious.
 
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modulus said:
Quite surprising, beause, every science teacher we've had in our school always seemed to be very depressed, and, cosmology is crazily tough, as far as I have heard.

It's probably not fair to compare scientists with science teachers. Most physics teachers are not physicists (at least in my definition of the word).
 
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What group do you want to be popular with? If you want to be popular with the general public then find work that appeals to the masses, whether that be some form of entertainment or politics or whatever. If you want to be popular with scientists and other educated people then ask those people what they would like to do for themselves. Then form some general consensus and make that banal dream your own.

If the responses have a humorous tone to them I would guess it is because popularity appeals to stereotypes. If you really want to be popular then identify yourself by excelling in whatever task you undertake. If the purpose of your labor is to collect gratitude from others then the value of your work is disassociated from the product of your labor. When constant praise wanes your sense of fulfilment wanes with it. So become involved in a field that really interests you and you will be much more satisfied and successful than you would choosing a field for its stereotypical platitudes.

If you really want to impress someone then think for yourself.
 
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cristo said:
It's probably not fair to compare scientists with science teachers. Most physics teachers are not physicists (at least in my definition of the word).

Hey, watch it! you're getting...kinda...correct about that one.

These are 10-year old stats, but only around 60% of high schools in the country offer a Physics class, and only about half of those are taught by someone with an actual degree in Physics.

[Edit: from last Feb's The Physics Teacher, 23% of all Physics Teachers had a major in Physics, 8% had a minor in Physics, 10% had a major in "physics education," and 3% had a minor in "physics education." That's a grand total of only 44% of all Physics Teachers with any kind of degree at all in Physics.]

Last time I was sent for IB training ("International Baccalaureate," a special degree program our school offers , supposed to be tough) I was in a room with 20 other Physics teachers from all over the country, and nearly half of them were actually math teachers who were told that they were going to be teaching physics too.

There were several "heavy booters" among them.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=322925
 
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modulus said:
'what sounds coolest?'.

So we were on the annual sailing weekend holiday with the entire squadron, when somebody who overheard us talking flying jargon, asked: "So what are you guys doing for a living?"

-"We are cooks"

-"no no no, cooks don't talk like that, who do you think you're fooling, well?"

-"Okay, you got me there, actually, we are fighter pilots".

... :rolleyes:

Well I guess you had to be there.
 
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Stratosphere said:
Nice chart but I wouldn't agree with the part that say skill required. You can't measure the difficulty of professions different things are easier for some people than others. I would doubt that Einstein was able to act or play and write music like other people.

humanino said:
You may want to know that Einstein was a very good violin player. Seriously. And BTW, this is a log-log plot

:smile:
'Once the famed Einstein was rehearsing with the Budapest String Quartet as a guest soloist, and kept missing his entrances because he was not keeping proper time.

Finally the leader, Alexander Schneider, stopped the quartet and gently reproved the famous scientist.

"What's the matter, Albert?" joked Schneider. "Can't you count?"'

http://ezinearticles.com/?Einsteins-Gypsy-Violin&id=1362964

(Also mentioned in Wilczek's 'Longing for Harmonies' book.)
 
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