News When does political hate speech become domestic terrorism?

[Choronzon]

Ah, it seems you are conflating here.

I don't understand your remark.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

You've mischaracterized my position to argue a strawman.

A technical answer to the question you posed would be that older cases would be pushed first due to issues of statutory limitations.

Not going after older cases first would push them to the back, limitations would run out, and the cases would just generally grow stale and irrelevant.

So with the current party in power pushing for 'slanderers' (current) to be prosecuted it would have the effect of marginalizing, and criminalizing, the more zealous and outspoken of their political opponents, possibly strengthening their hold on power, while paying little to no notice to the use of similar tactics by their own supporters to supplant the previous power holder. Hence my reference to banana republics.

And my comment about it being convenient to do now is because I am quite certain that no one in the thread advocating such a practice would have been supporting it if we had been talking about suing the people who slander the president pre2009.

Please let me know where I have mischaracterized anything and what exactly the strawman I am arguing is.

 

[russ_watters]

I admit I'm pretty stunned that you think it's impossible.

Well I'm stunned that you are equating the two. Our government survived many things over the past 200 years, including Lincoln suspending much of the Bill of Rights for the purpose of keeping the union together. We haven't moved in the direction of dictatorship and there is no good reason to believe we will.

 

[russ_watters]

I adressed this https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=2338761&postcount=29".

"I did not ask him to address free speech zones." That just says what your point isn't. So then you are confirming that you don't have a point?

 

[russ_watters]

Please note what the characterization created by drawing a Hitler mustache on a picture of someone represents.

No one has given an example of that - do you have one?

We're really straying from the OP here, though. While I'm sure you can find a random blogger or t-shirt maker doing that, the OP was about some of the louder voices of the right wing conducting terrorism. I think you should at least provide some connection to the OP with this line of argument.

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

When does political hate speech become domestic terrorism?

Are you terrified by free speech? According to the song, this is supposed to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. For you it seems to be neither.

 

[WhoWee]

Where does free speech end and domestic terrorism begin? We all know there is a line that cannot be crossed, and it doesn't only apply to yelling "fire" in crowded theaters. In my opinion, Palin, Limbaugh, Savage [who is banned from entry to the UK as a danger to society], Beck, and a number of others, esp from the talk radio scene, are essentially domestic terrorists.

Ivan, this is my second attempt to obtain your response.

Is Bill Ayers a danger to society (as per this thread)?

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/11/b...protester-talks-life-with.html?pagewanted=all

"''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago."

This is your thread, please respond.

 

[Al68]

False claims made by extreme right-wing players on the US political scene are designed to terrorize people. For example, how many false claims have been made about Obama; that he is a socialist, a communist, a terrorist, etc. He wants death panels. He want's to pull the plug on grandma. He is brainwashing our children. etc etc etc. We even find a "minister" who is praying for Obama to die and go to hell while openly admitting that he is trying to light a fire under his brainwashed congregation; one of which showed up to greet Obama with a loaded AK-47. Then we go back to the invasion of Iran and the claims that WMDs were a slam dunk and the strongly enforced suggestion that we were attacked by Saddam when there was no evidence to support that assertion.

Where does free speech end and domestic terrorism begin? We all know there is a line that cannot be crossed, and it doesn't only apply to yelling "fire" in crowded theaters. In my opinion, Palin, Limbaugh, Savage [who is banned from entry to the UK as a danger to society], Beck, and a number of others, esp from the talk radio scene, are essentially domestic terrorists.

This coming from the most prolific spewer of hatred in this forum? This post is more hateful than anything on "right-wing" radio. Of course hate speech from the so called left has been their bread and butter for decades.

Where would the Democratic Party be without hate speech? If they refrained from accusing their opponents of being for the rich, not caring about poor people, and other hateful absurdities? They would be left with nothing to say, I suppose.

The funny thing is you refer to a small group of people who's speech is mild in comparison to mainstream Democrats. Stirring up hatred for Republicans is the only way they have gotten elected for decades.

How do you know if a Democrat is spewing hatred? Their mouth is open.