Is a Crash Inevitable Given the Conditions Described?

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The discussion centers on calculating the time required to prevent a crash between a car and a truck, given specific conditions. The participants analyze the equations of motion, particularly focusing on the distances traveled by both vehicles during deceleration. The conclusion drawn is that the car must wait a minimum of 0.362 seconds before braking to avoid a collision, although some participants express confusion regarding the assumptions made in the calculations and the implications of the time variable.

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Homework Statement
A car is driving at the distance ##d= 15m## after the truck. Both vehicles drive with the constant velocity. Velocity of the car is ## v_1= 30,6 \frac{m}{s}##, velocity of the truck is ## v_2= 25 \frac{m}{s}##. Suddenly the truck starts to slow down with deceleration ##-a=5\frac{m}{s^2}##.
1. Calculate the time necessary so that the car and the truck don't crash. You know the car driver starts slowing down (##0,5s##) later than the truck and both the truck and the car decelerate with ##-a=5\frac{m}{s^2}##.
2. Calculate the time of the crash.
Relevant Equations
Basic kinematic equations
1. I'm trying to calculate the time at which the crash does not happen (if possible, because I don't know the official solution. I assume the crash is preventable).
At the time t the truck decelerates and makes the distance ##s_2= \frac{v_2^2}{2a}##. In the same time the car drives with the constant velocity ##v_1## for a time ##t_0## ##\implies s_{11}= v_1\cdot t_0 ## and then decelerates with ##a## ##\implies s_{12}= \frac{v_1^2}{2a}##. Therefore I assume the condition for no accident is : ##|s_{11}|+ |s_{12}| < d + |s_2|\implies |v_1\cdot t_0|+ |-\frac{1}{2}a(t-t_0)^2| < d + |-\frac{1}{2}at^2|##. After putting in the known values the value of is ##t > 0.362s##. After a little bit of reflection this doesn't make any sense to me - shouldn't be the time bigger?
2. When does the crash happen?
I assumed the distance driven by the car is bigger than the ( distance d + the distance driven by the truck):
##|s_{11}|+ |s_{12}| = d + |s_2|## (so both vehicles are at the same position)
After plugging the values in I get ##t= 0.362s##.

I feel like I missed something here.

Will be grateful for any help.
 
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I don't understand this. The truck brakes but then what? Does the car brake ##0.5s## later or not? What time are you trying to calculate in part 1).

What are you assuming for part 2)?
 
PeroK said:
I don't understand this. The truck brakes but then what? Does the car brake ##0.5s## later or not? What time are you trying to calculate in part 1).

What are you assuming for part 2)?
I corrected my solving process. The problem does not give any more information so I assumed the truck is stopping until its velocity is 0.
 
bolzano95 said:
1. Calculate the time necessary so that the car and the truck don't crash.

What does this mean? Does it mean: how long can the car wait before braking?
 
bolzano95 said:
##|s_{11}|+ |s_{12}| < d + |s_2|\implies |v_1\cdot t_0|+ |-\frac{1}{2}a(t-t_0)^2| < d + |-\frac{1}{2}at^2|##.
What is t here? It did not feature in your expression for s12.
 
haruspex said:
What is t here? It did not feature in your expression for s12.
t is the particular time in which the truck goes from its velocity ##v_2## to 0 and makes a distance ##s_2##. In the inequality there is difference implemented ##t'= t-t_0##, because in the time t' the car is slowing down.
 
PeroK said:
What does this mean? Does it mean: how long can the car wait before braking?
2. The instruction is written here as it is written in my problem book. I personally assume there has to be a condition for the crash not to happen, but I do not know which or what.
 
bolzano95 said:
2. The instruction is written here as it is written in my problem book. I personally assume there has to be a condition for the crash not to happen, but I do not know which or what.
A crash seems inevitable to me. The car is too close and driving too fast.
 

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